Why WASD and not ESDF?

[ajshell1]

I was looking at my keyboard recently, when I asked myself "why does EVERY GAME that doesn't use the arrow keys for movement have WASD as the default and not ESDF? With ESDF, your left hand is exactly where the fingers normally would be for typing (the "home position", as my typing software called it). Also, you can use the Q, A, and Z keys for other functions while still being able to use tab, caps lock, shift, and alt keys, with W, X, R, and V doing the same thing as QZEC. So overall you get access to more buttons this way. You would still have to reach for ` and Escape, but you would have to reach for those keys anyway.

TL;DR: Why do we use WASD instead of ESDF?

[Linus Hyper]

BOT Blidgu の投稿を引用：

because we do it

zert の投稿を引用：

cause WASD is better

Adde の投稿を引用：

WASD has better positioning

[Xcalknight]

Studio Cat の投稿を引用：

wow. You posted a lot to prove a matter of opinion in your necroing a two year dead thread.

And wasd is preferred due to easy of access to the distinct control, shift and alt keys.

I did state I knew this was a two year old thread but reading it, I was shocked to learn that the only reason people liked WASD so much was because they were either just used to it or because of the ctrl, alt and shift keys. My hands are rather small, with me being a small skinny person. They can reach the ctrl, alt and shift keys easily. ctrl is a bit of a stretch but I can still reach it with my pinky while pressing a movement key or using it as a modifier to activate an ability or something. I know a lot of females will have smaller hands than me though so maybe you all with smaller hands will have difficulty with ESDF and hitting that Ctrl button. Hitting shift and alt shouldn't be a problem unless you're missing your pinky or you can't use it due to an injury, malformation or disease.

WASD is preferred because people are just used to it. Developers use it as a default and ppl are generally too lazy to change the controls or are just so used to it, they like it now. Ease of access for a single button is a ridiculous notion.

[mellow]

its easier to reach shift wasd

[Xcalknight]

Ellipsis の投稿を引用：

I switched to ESDF and I don't think I could ever go back. Being able to reach much more of my keyboard, plus being in the same position that I type in is incredibly nice.

I know right?

an lol mellow|merry christmasp の投稿を引用：

its easier to reach shift wasd

I'm so confused on how it's easier. What does your keyboard look like? I literally move my pinky down and press down and now I'm holding down shift. The keyboard is designed so that if your hands are in the "home" position with your pointer fingers on j and f, it would be very easy for your pinky to access the shift key on either side. I can understand the Ctrl key but you WASD people keep on including shift in your argument and shift is just as easy to press in ESDF as it is in WASD. Do you WASD users use a different keyboard or something?

And Merry Christmas to you too!

[Danksama]

Xcalknight の投稿を引用：

I'm so confused on how it's easier. What does your keyboard look like? I literally move my pinky down and press down and now I'm holding down shift. The keyboard is designed so that if your hands are in the "home" position with your pointer fingers on j and f, it would be very easy for your pinky to access the shift key on either side. I can understand the Ctrl key but you WASD people keep on including shift in your argument and shift is just as easy to press in ESDF as it is in WASD. Do you WASD users use a different keyboard or something?

And Merry Christmas to you too!

I can also vouch for Shift being easier to reach on my keyboard than with ESDF

[SLIMEANATER]

Because the gods say so!

[Amberbaum]

Why do you care if random fellow players use WASD or not? It doesn't affect you and if your current keyboard setup works for you, then that should be fine, no?

[Herb & Bea Ehltée]

http://use-esdf.org/

[Xcalknight]

Amberbaum の投稿を引用：

Why do you care if random fellow players use WASD or not? It doesn't affect you and if your current keyboard setup works for you, then that should be fine, no?

It doesn't matter if they use it or not - what matters to me is simply their reasons they say they prefer to use it. I would gladly accept, "because I'm a dirty pleb" or "because I've been indoctrinated" rather than "because the shift key is a little over 1/2 an inch closer" which is ridiculous. Not only are you increasing the amount of keys you can reach, you're adding 3 keys just to your pinky's accessibility.

Do I actually care about what you do with your fingers? Nope, don't give a f*ck but it's just the bs answers people give like...

SLIMEANATER の投稿を引用：

Because the gods say so!

or

BOT Blidgu の投稿を引用：

because we do it

zert の投稿を引用：

cause WASD is better

Adde の投稿を引用：

WASD has better positioning

(*pssst* No it doesn't)

and to Danksama: I used to use WASD too because I was just a dirty pleb and I can also confirm it was easy to press the shift key using WASD but with ESDF, instead of pressing on the extreme left of the shift key, I now press on the extreme right of the shift key because the shift key is 1.5 inches long and that's standard on all keyboards...

Thanks guys! You've been wonderful!

[mellow]

Xcalknight の投稿を引用：

Ellipsis の投稿を引用：

I switched to ESDF and I don't think I could ever go back. Being able to reach much more of my keyboard, plus being in the same position that I type in is incredibly nice.

I know right?

an lol mellow|merry christmasp の投稿を引用：

its easier to reach shift wasd

I'm so confused on how it's easier. What does your keyboard look like? I literally move my pinky down and press down and now I'm holding down shift. The keyboard is designed so that if your hands are in the "home" position with your pointer fingers on j and f, it would be very easy for your pinky to access the shift key on either side. I can understand the Ctrl key but you WASD people keep on including shift in your argument and shift is just as easy to press in ESDF as it is in WASD. Do you WASD users use a different keyboard or something?

And Merry Christmas to you too!

i use my thumb for shift. it feel awkward to use pinki.

[Xcalknight]

an lol mellow|merry christmasp の投稿を引用：

i use my thumb for shift. it feel awkward to use pinki.

OH really? That's kinda fascinating. I use my thumb for Alt and pinky for shift and Ctrl. So, you use your pinky for shift, caps and Tab?

[mellow]

Xcalknight の投稿を引用：

an lol mellow|merry christmasp の投稿を引用：

i use my thumb for shift. it feel awkward to use pinki.

OH really? That's kinda fascinating. I use my thumb for Alt and pinky for shift and Ctrl. So, you use your pinky for shift, caps and Tab?

i think i just use index finger for tab, or like the one beside my pinky

[Xcalknight]

an lol mellow|merry christmasp の投稿を引用：

i think i just use index finger for tab, or like the one beside my pinky

I guess using your pinky for pretty much anything feels uncomfortable to you. That's cool - I guess so long as you aren't required to press a lot of buttons to function in-game, you feel right as rain.

[mellow]

Xcalknight の投稿を引用：

an lol mellow|merry christmasp の投稿を引用：

i think i just use index finger for tab, or like the one beside my pinky

I guess using your pinky for pretty much anything feels uncomfortable to you. That's cool - I guess so long as you aren't required to press a lot of buttons to function in-game, you feel right as rain.

i dont think keyboard can press more than like a few at a time anyway

[+ Danielle + Busy but active]

Well because if im playing Fallout 4 it makes vats awkward to use and tab and shift kinda and i cant use alt with my thumb anymore. It's pretty self explanatory.