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The original idea of WASD was to move the right hand away from the left (separating keyboard and mouse) and to be as close to the action keys which surround them. Left CTRL key being the main concern for reach, Windows key (staying out from being mistakenly hit) and still reach the Spacebar on the other side.
However you could setup ESDF to work well, depending on the game. Z becomes your Left Ctrl instead, etc.
I've even seen players rebind their setups as ASDF (up/down/left/right) claiming it's faster, more relaxed, etc.
I guess people have to get use to a different setup and using one for years on end, unwilling to change. I haven't personally seen a good enough point to change, happy just using WASD.
predictable... if you're gonna quote me then quote everything i say instead of trying to be a dirty journalist with an agenda picking and choosing what i say in your post.
stop taking what i say out of context and putting them in your reply thinking that it makes any sense
because you obviously don't understand what the bigger picture is here.
Just because the 'pros' do something doesn't mean that's the norm. They do it because they've had long hours of practice and that's the position they find gives optimal skill and comfort for them. I just tried twisting my keyboard that way and all I got was hand cramps, an issue I've never had with the standard WASD positioning.
How did I take that out of context? You asked for reasons why anyone would use a flat keyboard, and I gave them. Let's see the whole quote:
Okay first bit, you talk about your experience, that's great... but I addressed that in my response (some people don't want to spend the money on a second gaming keyboard... especially not a $300 one).
Next bit: that keyboard might not work with WASD, but *most* people use a regular keyboard, which is what WASD is designed for. Complaining that it doesn't work with well with your setup is like whining that that flight sims aren't optimized for a fighting stick input by default; it's a minor problem that applies to a small demographic, and easily fixed with rebinding the controls. This is followed by your question that I 'took out of context' and answered with valid reasons (cost, space, etc.).
You end with the question 'Why cause yourself the pain?' Well, for many, like myself, WASD controls aren't particularly uncomfortable. Sure, it's not as comfortable as an ergonomic controller, but I can still game for hours at a time with no issue, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
Is that better?
EXACTLY!!! LONG HOURS ON A KB DESIGN THAT CREATES STRESS!!! EVEN THE NORMAL POSTIONING OF A KB DESIGNED IN THAT MATTER CREATES STRESS!!!
Are you getting the picture yet with what you're saying??? think hard on what you've said in response to me...
now look at kb companies... not just the one i've mentioned... do some research!!
Conform to 'murica authoritah! The keyboard was originally designed as WASD as the most slowest possible key layout to help prevent typewriters from getting stuck by typing to quickly.
No, that's a false assumption. Just because one person finds something comfortable doesn't mean that's the standard for everyone. I would go so far as to say the *opposite* is true for professional gamers; they're worried about squeezing every bit of performance out of the keyboard first and comfort comes secondary, resulting in the adaptation of odd postures and positioning that is probably going to lead to damage in the long run, but that's their choice. From my experience, the standard flat layout and control scheme is comfortable, works well, and has yet to do any harm.
Furthermore, that's the *extreme* end of the scale. The vast majority of gamers aren't professional gamers. I don't know of any of my real life gaming buddies that has a special keyboard or uses an abnormal positioning. The default keymapping works for the vast majority of gamers, which is why it's the default. Is it perfect for everyone? Of course not. That's why keys are remappable. The gamers in the video you linked? They aren't contorting to fit into WASD keybindings; they've all got the controls set up differently how they're used to. Should we have the numpad be default because one guy thinks it works for him? Of course not, that's ridiculous.
As far as "doing some research" goes, I still don't get the point you're trying to make. Do keyboard makers say that their keyboard is a miracle of ergonomics? Of course they would, they're selling you that keyboard. It turns out, someone selling you a product isn't an unbiased source of information for that product. But I did see this:
OSHA Standards on Keyboard use: https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/computerworkstations/components_keyboards.html
"Note: alternative keyboards help maintain neutral wrist postures, but available research does not provide conclusive evidence that using these keyboards prevents discomfort and injury."
Oh look, it's not about the keyboard you use, it's about proper posture while using it. Go figure, eh?
F and J have those "bumps" that anyone who's ever used a computer before knows about, and those bumps are there to indicate the home position. This is useful for typing, as you won't have to look down and waste time finding the home position, however in gaming those bumps are uncomfortable and just irritate my finger. I guess its personal preference though.
Using the WSAD config, my hand can reach Tab, `, Caps Lock, Shift, Ctrl, Alt, Q, Z, E, C, R, F, V, T, G, B, and numbers 1-5 without having to move my hand. That's more than enough keys for me, and the types of games I play.
Someone said earlier that they kept hitting the windows key. Ok, disable it. Google the instructions. I mean do you EVER use the windows key ever in your life ever ever ever? Be honest. The answer is: NO. We never use the windows key. Somehow, we as humans find it more convenient to just click on it with the mouse. Just disable it or remove the entire key altogether. I use a laptop and the geniuses at MSI turned that windows button into a function button because they realized nobody uses that stupid ass button so they made it useful.
The biggest advantage of using ESDF is simply the fact that you're able to reach a total of 25 keys easily with the left hand.
1st Row: 1 - 5
2nd Row: Tab - T
3rd Row: Caps - G
4th Row: Shift - B
5th Row: Alt & Space
It's a bit of a stretch but you can move just a little bit further to reach the Y, H, N, M and Left Ctrl Keys with your left hand increasing that number to 30 keys. I do make use of my thumb and pinky much more with esdf - I have 5 fingers so I'll use 'em. Not to mention, I was taught to type with my hands in this position so when I have to type out a message, I can very quickly type what I have to say without repositioning my hand to ASDF to type then back to WASD to game. Being in ESDF means I'm already in ASDF since my pinky isn't just used for the caps lock, shift and ctrl buttons. WASD is just inefficient. You get access to just 22 keys and have to really stretch for the T, G and B keys putting you at 25 keys.
WASD is only popular because of Quake anyways. One player who was really good at Quake used WASD as his control scheme and since everyone wanted to be as good as this player, the control scheme caught on like wildfire and thus had everyone playing with WASD. Quake was defaulted to the arrow keys so people played with many different control schemes (ESDF, ASDF, WASD and the arrow keys) but because one dude made WASD work in a tournament, it made everyone convert to WASD and all of you people got used to WASD. How many controls did you have in Quake? The movement keys, switch weapon and a use key. Play a modern MMO and you have a multitude of commands you need to issue to where I need like 60 keybinds to remember using shift, alt and ctrl to make better use of the 22 other buttons. You all are on an archaic control scheme and really should give it a shot.
I can almost promise you that ESDF will make your gaming life a bit easier once you get used to it like you did with WASD. Sure, you'll suck ass at first but you'll be better off in the long run. And for those of you who find the little bump on the keyboard (to help you find the home keys) annoying, I got nothing for you - maybe you should just stick to WASD or get a new keyboard. Like I mentioned before, I'm on a MSi Gaming Laptop. The dudes who designed this laptop were very smart and they put the little notches at the bottom of the F and J keys so you barely feel it. A lot of companies do this with their keyboards now but a lot of them also put that notch right in the middle of the F and J keys and that junk can only be annoying to have to feel all the time. Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions, obviously, but I'm encouraging you all to have an open mind and try it. I started off with WASD like you lot did and Tribes 2 or Tribes: Vengence, a game released back in like 2001, helped me see the light. Obviously, I'm good with ESDF since I've been using it for like 17 years but my point is, you gotta start somewhere.
TL;DR - ESDF allows you to reach way more keys while still reaching all but 1 of WASD keys effectively. Don't be a tool and just say WASD is better. Give ESDF an honest try and stop restricting yourself.
And wasd is preferred due to easy of access to the distinct control, shift and alt keys.
ok
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-wasd-became-the-standard-pc-control-scheme/