why are so few ww2 rts games with japan as a playable nation

[Hayden the first watcher]

why can someone giive me an idea of there are so few

[Hayden the first watcher]

or can someone give me a list of rts games were japan is a playable nation

[Iced Lenin]

Because America got realy upset and sent japanese americans to prison camps during ww2 and I gues there just embaresed now.

[Maddie Gaming]

Well, the closest we have to that (As far as I know of) is C&C: Red Alert 3, though it's not really WWII and more screwing around with the timeline.

[Fork_Q2]

The Western front ended with the Allied forces rolling into Berlin.

Japan surrended after two nukes were deployed against them, not really much scope for a RTS game.

[Naedmi]

Moral of the story "Americans bad everyone else good"
(sarcasm)

[Hayden the first watcher]

so basicaly america feels guilty for its overkill against japan which is why there are so few rts games with them involved.

[Hayden the first watcher]

I know there a playble nation in men of war and both men of war assault squad games, there also playable in battlestation pacific heck if you complete there campain in battlestation pacific they rewrite history and take over the pacific. Other than the two trs games ive listed there are just to few rts games with japan playble but if you of any im open ears.

[ACJCLIGHTNING]

Originally posted by alexoglesby:

so basicaly america feels guilty for its overkill against japan which is why there are so few rts games with them involved.

no lol, but its a fun theory.

In reality, the massive combined arms warfare of the european theatre is just more interesting in game for. I have heard people ask "Why no WW1 video games". The answer? most of the war consisted of sitting in holes in the ground.

Similar story with japan. No game has managed to do WW2 era naval combat well, and battlestations midway is not a real RTS.
The naval and air fights were the only things you could do in a tactical RTS in the japanese theatre, because the "Massive combined arms warfare" of Europe didn't happen in the pacific theatre. Ironically, the pacific theatres ground wars, of which consist only of attacking islands, mostly consisted of japanese soldiers sitting in holes. Thats cause if they left the holes, they would be flattened by american ship bombardment and air strikes.

And so they force it into a up close and personal jungle war, of which things like tanks were barely a part of. It was mostly infantry combat, and most of it didn't take place in cities.

So basically, the war in the pacific was nearly entirely an Air and sea war in terms of interesting tactics, while the island hoping campaign didn't have nearly as many variables as the european war.
in short, the fighting that took place there does not transfer well to videogames, and would most likely create a worse game.

That doesn't mean a strategic game wouldn't be great, but in terms of tactical, individual battles, no.

If you want to play a more modern Japan in an RTS, Wargame Red Dragon has japan as a playable faction, although "Faction" is an open ended word in that case since you can mix any units from any nato country with it if you choose to do so.

[Hayden the first watcher]

hmm but still they could do a game where you rewrite ww2 history or play it as it and all major nations could be playable but games like that are rare

[Fork_Q2]

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™:

Originally posted by alexoglesby:

hmm but still they could do a game where you rewrite ww2 history or play it as it and all major nations could be playable but games like that are rare

Not really possible, japan didn't really develop good ground warfare because they were up against terrible countries in that aspect, there wasn't the competition there for it to be an interesting fight. It would have to be an alt history where japan succeeded in building its empire earlier and so had to create ground force tech to defend its chinese territory. and we all know how hypersensitive the chinese are these days, you'd have riots and other trouble for the publishers, so not going to happen

Asymmetric and mixed strategy games aren't exactly unheard of. The "weaker" faction could still be bolstered by having more and cheaper units, for example.

Maybe not "all" nations involved in WW2, but a strategy game not too dissimilar to the Total War series is very doable, with different nations could have different "win" conditions. Japan taking and maintaining control over Indonesia, Korea, Hong Kong, Thailand and successfully fend off American and Russian invasion until 1950 - possible in a game.

[✦✦✦✦✦✦]

Its too hard to balance Germans, US and soviets against Japan. Japan had the worst army in ww2 since they spent most of their funds on navy and air force. Their army was barely enough to contain China and southeast asia. And in the last week of WW2, Soviets did a push through Northern China against Japan, Japan was getting royally rekt by Soviet heavy armour and their experience against the Germans. Simply if the Japanese army fought over wide plains like in Europe, they would get rekt by every single Allied country bar China.

[Soully]

No. The real reason there are so few, is because all everyone cares about is the -european- conflict. And it's American studios making the games, so everyone thinks Amer vs. Germ is SOOOOOOOO much cooler then everything else ever existant.

It's insulting. ♥♥♥ vs. Amer, China Vs. ♥♥♥... That'd be cool.

[Fork_Q2]

Originally posted by Femsoulthief:

No. The real reason there are so few, is because all everyone cares about is the -european- conflict. And it's American studios making the games, so everyone thinks Amer vs. Germ is SOOOOOOOO much cooler then everything else ever existant.

It's insulting. ♥♥♥ vs. Amer, China Vs. ♥♥♥... That'd be cool.

There has already been plenty of games about WWII from outside the European Theatre - Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty WaW, Medal of Honor Rising Sun, Medal of Honor Pacific Assault, Red Orchestra Rising Storm, Battlefield 1943, Blazing Angels 2 and Sniper Elite 3.

[Soully]

Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

Originally posted by Femsoulthief:

No. The real reason there are so few, is because all everyone cares about is the -european- conflict. And it's American studios making the games, so everyone thinks Amer vs. Germ is SOOOOOOOO much cooler then everything else ever existant.

It's insulting. ♥♥♥ vs. Amer, China Vs. ♥♥♥... That'd be cool.

There has already been plenty of games about WWII from outside the European Theatre - Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty WaW, Medal of Honor Rising Sun, Medal of Honor Pacific Assault, Red Orchestra Rising Storm, Battlefield 1943, Blazing Angels 2 and Sniper Elite 3.

Plenty, sure...

But what about games IN the theater? Still a lot.

I'd like it if someone actually made a global WW2 game... I mean, I'm sure such a thing is out there... but a global-scale WW2 game would just be amazing.

[Hayden the first watcher]

that would be friggin awesome if someone did make a game like that