Brian 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:19
Steam Achievement Tracker/Collaborative Music Digest
Hey all, don't know if this is appropriate to post here but if it's not just shun me off!

I recently re-skinned my Steam achievement tracker app and was wondering what you guys thought. It's pretty simple, but I wanted an achievement tracker app without tons of bloat/required signups/etc.

The site is http://foffytrack.com/ -- also, if you like music, check out the Foffbox as well, I'm open to suggestions on both :)

Thanks,
Foffy
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Fork_Q2 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:25 
It's alright, Brian. I like the cat loading animation.

I don't know what "You place in the top 100% of Foffytrackers!" means though.
Brian 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:32 
It's supposed to be a percentile thing -- it's how you rank against other people who have used the site. Do you think it would make more sense to phrase it differently?

EDIT: It seems it wasn't able to read any achievement data at all. Those little progress bars should fill up with your # of achieves.
最後修改者:Brian; 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:41
Fork_Q2 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:42 
Just change it to "Your place" instead of "You place".

It's some some random user with an open profile I used, and it looks like the achievements are "Not Applicable" for every title that person owns, even though s/he has a public profile with achievements listed and everything. That's the one giving me the "You place in the top 100%..." message.

It seems to work for your profile and mines, though. I'm in the top 16% apparently, you may have to explain a bit more what that means.

I quite like the presentation and the stats at the bottom, especially "unplayed games". 70% unplayed games? FML!
最後修改者:Fork_Q2; 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:43
Brian 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:46 
Hahaha you'd be surprised at how often people's # of unplayed games is above 50%!

How about instead of "You placed in the top 25%" it says "You rank higher than 75% of players"?

I have another friend whose profile is open too and it doesn't work for them either...I'm not sure what I can do about that. Seems to be tied to specific people.
最後修改者:Brian; 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:48
Fork_Q2 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:51 
Yeah, that's a bit better. But still not sure what the rank is based on, is it raw number of achievements across all games, average percentage per game or an index based on a number of different factors?

It's a cool little tool.
Brian 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:54 
There -- I pushed up an update which re-words it.

As for your question, I'm a bit torn. There is a formula behind the scenes that basically counts a sort of "achievement points" -- they're called "Foffyscore" on the backend. I used to display them on the front, but for this iteration I removed them because people were getting confused.

Basically it's something like

- Each achievement you earn on a single game grants you a certain base value
- Earning more achievements in one game is worth more
- Points per achievement are placed on a curve (so a game with lots of achievements becomes worth more as you earn more achievements in that game)
- Completing a game earns you a bonus score based on how many achievements were in that game

tl;dr = more achievements & bigger games = more points

I'm just not sure if it's something people would want to see or not. Thoughts?
Dendrobates Tinctorius 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:06 
A mess:
click http://foffytrack.com/
wind up on toffee tools (?), have to click on foffytrack again to even get to the damn thing
"enter a vanity URL or whatsit!"
not enough room in the textbox for a url, it just wants the id bit on the end
wait a decade for it to load
accidentally refresh and it spams steams servers again, lol
results page stacks everything in a difficult to read format, first item is a ranking of how many letters you have in your name (?)
second item is the url you can find in the browser's url bar just in case you don't know how this internet thing works
nothing immediately sets it apart from other tracking services
Brian 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:07 
Just out of curiosity, what browser are you using?
Fork_Q2 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:08 
"You rank higher than 85% of Foffytrackers!", perhaps this could be worded a bit better still, as in "You rank better than 85% of other Foffytracker users!" or "You're in our top 15% users!". Someone else could probably suggest something better. I'm not too keen on the new wording because I would not know what is a "Foffytracker", let alone what is to be 85% of it.

May have to explain the Foffyscore on the page, because I didn't know any of that until you told me right now. Without being told how to increase the score (which also isn't listed on the page), the user would be left in the dark as to what that percentage actually means.

The Foffyscore is a cool idea, and while I understand why you took it away (it could be confusing), it's something that shouldn't be left hidden on the backend, totally unexplained. The percentage score isn't meaningful without it.
Fork_Q2 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:11 
A mess:
click http://foffytrack.com/
wind up on toffee tools (?), have to click on foffytrack again to even get to the damn thing
"enter a vanity URL or whatsit!"
not enough room in the textbox for a url, it just wants the id bit on the end
wait a decade for it to load
accidentally refresh and it spams steams servers again, lol
results page stacks everything in a difficult to read format, first item is a ranking of how many letters you have in your name (?)
second item is the url you can find in the browser's url bar just in case you don't know how this internet thing works
nothing immediately sets it apart from other tracking services

Yeah, I forgot to mention that I did not know immediately what an "vanity URL" is either, I assumed it was the entire URL page of your profile page, later did I realise it was just the id name. Maybe I'm just thick, but it wasn't obvious what it was to me, personally.
Brian 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:13 
^Does this mean that the image explaining what it was wasn't good enough (or that you couldn't find the image)?

Looking at it from a distance now, you should probably be able to just enter your URL and have it parse it for you -- really not difficult. I'd really like to be able to just enter a display name, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be possible.

Also, uploaded a small textual change -> "You rank higher than 37% of Foffytrack users!"
Fork_Q2 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:25 
To be fair, the instructions "Enter your Steam Vanity URL or Steam ID into the box below" isn't accurate and is different from the instructions you added in later.

From that sentence, I assumed putting in your Steam profile URL (http://steamcommunity.com/id/agrelephant) should work, but the word limit is only copying up to "http://steamcommunity", after which I copied and pasted "agrelephant". Again, might just be me being dumb, but that was my take on it.

This was from using Chrome by the way, if that means anything.

Yeah, that text is better now. Just realised that you could change the colour of the cat by clicking it, that's nice. I know it's probably going to involve an lot of work, but I still think it necessary to explain how that percentage is worked out.
最後修改者:Fork_Q2; 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:26
Brian 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:39 
Actually Fork, the code is still left in there -- I'd just have to add it back in again.

Give it a look now -- I changed quite a bit of the formatting surrounding the table. No mention of Foffyscore still, though -- that'll be sometime later in the week probably.

Edit: Oh WOW, I JUST realized why the URL thing was so confusing. I didn't even put 2 + 2 together to realize that generally "URL" means the whole thing...derp...
最後修改者:Brian; 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:42
Fork_Q2 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:52 
"Rank higher by earning more achievements in more games!", eh, this will suffice for now I guess :happycthulhu:

Few things I would like to suggest, but yeah it's cool as it is.
Brian 2014 年 9 月 14 日 下午 4:59 
I figure I'm gonna let myself chew on the Foffyscore thing, but that should tide over for the time being as you said. :P

I touched up the main page to be much clearer about what a "Steam Name" or "Steam ID" is. Unfortunately I don't have Photoshop on this computer so I had to make do, but the image was slightly updated as well. What do you think?

Another thing I should implement is a better loading mechanism -- it should load data for each game as it gets it, rather than all at once. This way you don't need to wait around so long to see data when you have lots of games.
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