Hardest rpg's

[Flowernose]

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Dont answer if you think final fantasy has ANY difficulty.I just push X on my controller over and over without any thought to win all battles.Spamming X requires no brains

Does not have to be a steam game and does not have to be in english

Since there isnt a word to define what im looking for (EVEN THOUGH THERE SHOULD) im going to state how IM using the word.Purely choice making.No reaction times.
The games dark souls or zelda or mass effect would not be one of these games
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I'v been looking at some rpg's but they seem more like "tycoons" in which you repeat a cycle of 5 actions untill you gain enough xp/money to swap your 5 action cycle for another

[KANAMI]

I hate to admit it but I've never played FF VII
But I doubt one of the most popular JRPGs of all time
Famous for a boss who was made out to be rediculously hard
Would be such a pushover.

Anyway I like how this turned into a
Is Final Fantasy Hard? Thread.

[Flowernose]

引用自 Dr. Class：

I hate to admit it but I've never played FF VII
But I doubt one of the most popular JRPGs of all time
Famous for a boss who was made out to be rediculously hard
Would be such a pushover.

Anyway I like how this turned into a
Is Final Fantasy Hard? Thread.

Final fantasy is 10/10 at everything else.Story/Graphics/Theme/Adventure.ect
Like paper mario
Are you talking about that 5 hour boss with mid fight save points?

I'v hoped it wouldnt become a "Is final fantasy hard? thread"
A:I say why i dislike ff and dont want that type of game to clarify my results>And get disagreement
B:I remain silent about ff to avoid disagreement>And get more games i'd breeze threw with X spam

I choose option A

Even if people disagree with me on FF (For some reason <_<)The fact that i BELEIVE ff is this way should be enough reason to avoid games other people play the same way as ff

[Xaelath]

so you have play Brave Fencer Musashi?
lol i love that game so much :3 and i still own the original cd of it.
And it wasnt just a normal rpg game, theres a time where event occured,awesome bosses where everyone has its own weak point and movements,pulling sword combo between lumina and katana is awesome,6 element 6 main bosses,items,alot of secrets,and,awesome soundtrack.
except the story is average,voice acting is bad, no new game+,sometimes its really boring,can be finished in 1 day.

[Flowernose]

引用自 Xaelath：

so you have play Brave Fencer Musashi?
lol i love that game so much :3 and i still own the original cd of it.
And it wasnt just a normal rpg game, theres a time where event occured,awesome bosses where everyone has its own weak point and movements,pulling sword combo between lumina and katana is awesome,6 element 6 main bosses,items,alot of secrets,and,awesome soundtrack.
except the story is average,voice acting is bad, no new game+,sometimes its really boring,can be finished in 1 day.

I have not played it
From what information the internet gives me.I think i would like to play brave fencer musashi
Looks like a game i would like

[Mr. Tex]

Why not simply increase the difficulty ?

[Flowernose]

引用自 Bootis：

Why not simply increase the difficulty ?

Because its locked untill you replay the game.I'v tried harder on ff13-2
ff1 and ff2 dont have it and like i said before my ff13 disc was to damaged

[Ninja_Muffin2.4]

I havent played many RPG's but Golden Sun for the GBA is pretty difficult.

[Xaelath]

引用自 Ninja_Muffin2.4：

I havent played many RPG's but Golden Sun for the GBA is pretty difficult.

lol just now i played Summon Night 2.

[「 LiTe Em uP 」]

引用自 FretBored：

Difficulty is subjective.
With most RPGs, the difficulty is also dependent on your lvl.
I also don't think I've ever played a non action-RPG that was 'hard'.

That being said, it sounds like you're looking less for an RPG, and more for a strategy game.
Have you tried Final Fantasy Tactics?

with the right job classes and abilities, ff tactics has moderate to hard difficulty; assuming you only use the generic characters and not the special characters that can join you...

once you get beowulf and TG Cid, game is a cakewalk... you can send either one, and they would slaughter all enemies lol..
even as soon as you get agrias( at early stages of chapter 2 she is just a temp member, but later becomes a perma member) the game becomes easy, as she has about half the power of TG Cid lol..

there are a few parts in FFT that has a huge spike in difficulty, that if you are unprepared would mean a game over... the wiegraf battle and the elmdor+assassins are probably the highest difficulty curve in FFT.. also fighting 6 red chocobos in a random encounter is annoying lol..


now for the rpg's with steep learning curves..

CRISIS CORE (psp) = its basically you versus multiple enemies fighting at the same time.. its basically an action rpg(Kingdom Hearts combat) that has MODERATE to STEEP Difficulty.. wrong block or dodge could end the battle for you sooner than you think..
main quest is moderately difficult once you got some decent materias; its the missions where it gets tougher due to you requiring to grind to beat even the next available mission.. the further you progress into the missions, the tougher the regular mobs and bossess you will run into..

VAGRANT STORY (ps1 era)( would love if squareenix ports this superb game to pc) = similar to crisis core, but has strategic turn-based like combat due to the sphere grid system.. Moderately HARD to STEEPLY Hard Difficulty..
if you didn't know what you were doing, you could get stuck as early in the game; late game is even brutal as you would need to go back to some earlier areas to grab a key to unlock another area, and you need to have knowledge of combat to beat really tough enemies(bosses or even regular mobs can kill you in no time)..

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

If you want some difficult RPGs, try Final Fantasy V and Energy Breaker.

Maybe also Final Fantasy IV Hardtype.

All three are for SNES. FFV was re-released for GBA. EB and FF4H don't have official English versions but have fan-translations.

[Nekkore]

One of the hardest RPGs I've played was Persona 3 Portable because I found it hard to keep the social links and grinding at the same time.

[BeeWee]

bravely default was decently hard and the storyline was nice and long

[Cathulhu]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/23310/

While the story itself isn't that hard, there are special bosses which are very hard and not easy to beat.

[Sparse Dunes]

引用自 Zefar：

I have actually played through Final Fantasy 1 entirely and it is not easy. You actually need to use the limited amount of spells you got on your Blackmage and the heals has to be used when it matters.

As for Final Fantasy 2. You can see him losing a party member at around 1:45:00 or so. I've also played that game and it isn't all that easy. Certainly not a game you just press X all the time and using the fight command every single time.

There is no FF game out there that can be done with mashing X all the time. So you are once again wrong. Maybe you've just played the start of a FF game but the beginning is nothing like mid and end game.

Poitions & Ninja Class

Ignore Black Mage and get a Red Mage

Warrior, Thief, Monk, Red Mage.

Destroy everything in your path, especially mid-mid late game.

Still it is true that you can't just press one button and expect to win. Simply attacking won't do on certain bosses/enemies that are immune to physical attacks(IE: Flans)

引用自 Kiwi of Doom 73：

bravely default was decently hard and the storyline was nice and long

You mean terribly padded.


As for hard RPGs, Conception 2
It's piss easy gameply, but the story is just so terrible you won't be able to get through it unless you have a superiority coplex over and want to be surrounded by boring, uninteresting anime girls.

It's basically like Persona, but more ♥♥♥♥.