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No cause you don't believe. Remember the bad guys on the cross, only one was saved cause he decided (at the last minute) that he believed and god said "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise"
So according to this you can live a life of debauchery and when you're on your death bed you can ask for forgiveness and be saved...... something really wrong about this religion loll
Exactly loll there's always something wrong in religious stuff they were all man made which is why there's always something flawed
Islamic says kill all non believers..... come on lolll
To help you understand how twisted this religion and its vile dogma is -- imagine you're a kid again, and your older cousin comes to your Birthday party and gives you a video game. Everyone applauds your cousin's kindness and generosity. Later when its just you two alone, he warns you to give that game back to him tomorrow, and if you open it or use it for its intended purpose, he'll break your arm. That's not a f**king birthday present now, is it bossman?
That's how evil your god is, he gives you freewill then punishes you/destroys you if you use it.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/601901034049201164/
Just absolutely wrong...
1. I'll start with my question. You never answered it. Is it because you are terrified to answer my question which would expose just how awful Christianity is? What happens to people who were born before Jesus and who didn't have access to the gospels.
Because first... People born before Jesus would have had ZERO knowledge about Jesus. So, your point is moot. They would have had no knowledge that he even existed and would had been worshiping a God or Gods that isn't Jesus.
--So, if you state that they are in heaven even-though they had never heard about Jesus, which they wouldn't had worshiped him. You are admitting that you don't need Jesus to reach heaven.
--Or, if you admit that all these billions of people are in hell just because they had the misfortune to be born in a different culture, a very different time period, different culture, ect. All things outside their control, than you are admitting that your God is EVIL. Which you probably believe the mentally ill, autistic, and handicapped are all in hell because of their mental capabilities, or lack of, are all in hell. That includes a 16 year old girl I worked with. She was born into a Hindu family. Wheelchair bound. Couldn't speak. She could only give you the biggest smile. In your worldview she is in hell fires. SICK!
2. John 1.5 7 is a known forgery by secular and yes... Even Christian scholars. That verse is not in the earliest manuscripts which confirms it was forced in by scribes. The same with the adulterous woman. Another forged verse. Fakes! We have no idea who wrote the gospels. We do not have the originals. NONE. We have a few scraps in the 2nd century. Papyrus P52 is one. Its so tiny. The bulk of the gospels were written in the 3rd, and 4th century. Long after the death of the historical Jesus.
The lies you have to tell yourself.
According to what I could read from the bible.... you HAVE to believe to be saved
And by believe I mean all the crap about heaven, hell, all the peoples who RE WROTE the bible (cause what you can read is NOT the original "story") etc.
I'm sorry but I'm not that gullible
Yep. According to most Christians just because you didn't say some magical words.
Or maybe Islam is the one true religions, and in that case we are all doomed for hell. Even Christians. Which begs the question: Which Christian sect is the correct one? When I was a Catholic I was told by born again and Baptist that I wasn't saved. Christianity is in such a horrible state. They can't even tell you what it means to be saved.
Most Christians run to Paul, which I've always said that most Christians follow Paul, not Jesus. But if you read the sermon on the mount Jesus clearly states that we are to follow the laws of Moses. All of the laws if we want to reach heaven.
The fulfillment of the law:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." ~Jesus
So we have to research those guys, (cause frankly I don't know who tf they are) educate ourselves in what they did, what they believed (or not) and try to surpass their righteousness..... and it's the guy himself who said that.... ok lolll
I always hated games where I had to jump through a bunch of hoops to get the candy at the end.... it's just not me so send me first class where ever heaven is not
So much for free will.