Why do you think autism rates have increased so much?

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admiral1018 20 apr @ 16:29

Autism diagnoses in 8 year-olds are up nearly 500% since 2000. Some of this is obviously the result of changing standards which would not have counted autistic children in 2000, but that doesn't account for nearly enough of the increase to be meaningful.

Note: this is not an anti-vax topic. Kids were getting the same vaccines in 2000 as they are now, and there is no credible evidence that any vaccines have any effect.

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Crystal Sharrd 20 apr @ 16:31

More knowledge and awareness.

admiral1018 20 apr @ 16:38

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crystal Sharrd:
More knowledge and awareness.

... is part of it, but not 5x what it was in 2000. Those aren't ancient times. Most of us here remember it, and autism diagnosis was already common by that point.

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c Z p 20 apr @ 16:39

Maybe it has to do with our eating habits and our modern way of life, from pressure to light-flashing screens etc, who knows.
R. F. Kennedy Jr (the man) makes some pretty interesting suggestions on why it is happening.

Original Cast Recording 20 apr @ 16:39

As much as they've broadened the definitions, I don't know why there'd be any reason to suspect it all shares common causes.

In other words, I have no clue.

Bathtub Shitter 20 apr @ 16:43

over diagnosis and the informational age impairing our social skills. The doctors saying it was vaccine related had their medical licenses taken i believe.

Sidakte 20 apr @ 16:43

it has to be multifaceted. knowledge and awareness, environmental influences, pollution, quality of food and water. i also have absolutely no clue for that percentage but it can't be attributed to solely one reason. perhaps the start of genome differentiation (?), idk.

-OrLoK- Слава Україн 20 apr @ 16:49

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crystal Sharrd:
More knowledge and awareness.

This.

This is all.

Boblin the Goblin 20 apr @ 16:51

Ursprungligen skrivet av c Z p:
Maybe it has to do with our eating habits and our modern way of life, from pressure to light-flashing screens etc, who knows.
R. F. Kennedy Jr (the man) makes some pretty interesting suggestions on why it is happening.

Is it him or the worm in his brain making the suggestion?

Bathtub Shitter 20 apr @ 16:52

Ursprungligen skrivet av Boblin the Goblin:
Ursprungligen skrivet av c Z p:
Maybe it has to do with our eating habits and our modern way of life, from pressure to light-flashing screens etc, who knows.
R. F. Kennedy Jr (the man) makes some pretty interesting suggestions on why it is happening.
Is it him or the worm in his brain making the suggestion?

I just heard RFK was paid to say a lot of nonsense tbh. Brain worm jokes aside.

Dutchgamer1982 20 apr @ 16:54

made up disorder.
(sad as a person with said lable and who have been abused by unwanted medication an till 18yo and I finally by law was alowed to refuse said unneded chemicals and who was talked so many "but you cannot do this for people with autism cannot do this" crap which ofcourse I broke trough

but so many don't have that strenght and just give up and be whatever "the system" wants them to be.,

good psychiology :
-have known fysical cause, that can be objectively observed
-have clear symtoms that are the same with every patient

quick dsm 4
**take about 50 quirks EVER human in existance has.

list them in 5 lists of 20 *some traits will be on multiple lists)
than arbitarty say you have made up disorder name (insert name)
if you have 7/20 or more traits of said list.

due overlap one can have just 9 traits and have all 5 disorders
but one can also have 20 traits and non more than 6 of 1 of the 5 lists.

give a person who has 7 or more of 20 traits of a lable a name like autist, addh, borderline

insted of actually doing the efford to discover WHY the individual person has said trait and what can be done to treat it.. go full opressive and quack
the lable ofcourse only means.. "you have 7 or more traits of a list without specifying how many, without specifying which ones, without any idea what causes them and without any any if and how they can be treated"

they go "go have them cause you have a label (so you have the lable cause you have the traits and because of the lable you have the traits.. a false logic circle if ever I seen one"
and whats worse they start talking it is incurable.. and thus never put any efford into actually researching whats the cause of your specific traits
whats worse.. people start to make presumptions what people with said lable can and cannot do and like and have for traits.... despite no 2 of them are the same...
***if you not fit their idea of lable. . than they will turn hostile and declare you resisting treatment.. in a way how a person resitsting against slavery or opression would be called hysteric in the past..

and all this was done for one clear reason.. cause they could use medicine in very very very large amounts on these now labled people..
medicine never tested on the young developing minds but ment for alzheimers and psychosis and the such but given to these children nevertheless..
and this makes the pharmaceutical industry billion..

and this is why they pushed giving lable so much for that means more pills prescripted and more profit.

on the other side.. normal kids can be handsfulls.. normal society does not accept boys just being boys.. and want quite unnatural docile behaviour of kids.. and ofcourse to just pump them full of some dope makes them far less tiresome to teachers and parents..
-> and note how many with the lables also have divorsed parents with plenty of flaws..and classes that used to be with 15 kids now have 50.. with teachers mych less skilled managing a class than they used too..
just having your kid tagged a lable.. is a get out of jail free card for them themselves being crap parents/teachers/etc

for adults.. well people who suck in life love some easy excuse "oh I don't have to work on myself I just have lable x" it explains squad.. but people LOVE many up excuses why their life sucking is not their fault.

so why are so many more people (escpecially kids) given lables like autism, adhd and borderline?
**cause it's a convenient excuse for people.. and a moneyprinter for the pharmaceutical industry.

the victems.. the people getting all the abuse.. generally are abused into believing the lies.. few remain strong willed enough to resist it..
and than they might just say to those "well you have a very light variant" or "well you might have been mislabled" or something while the truth is most of those people who have suffered the abuse of labling and medication could have totally normal lifes if they were not stigmatised like that from a young age.

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Boblin the Goblin 20 apr @ 16:55

Ursprungligen skrivet av Dutchgamer1982:
snipped for misinformation

Nothing said was true.

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Echo NO Aim 20 apr @ 16:56

Why do I think this thread started becuase the Muricans have a total numbnut as secretary of health?

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Xero_Daxter 20 apr @ 16:56

I believe everyone is on a spectrum, at least a little bit. Some are worst than others.

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c Z p 20 apr @ 16:58

Ursprungligen skrivet av Boblin the Goblin:
Ursprungligen skrivet av c Z p:
Maybe it has to do with our eating habits and our modern way of life, from pressure to light-flashing screens etc, who knows.
R. F. Kennedy Jr (the man) makes some pretty interesting suggestions on why it is happening.
Is it him or the worm in his brain making the suggestion?

yea-yeah blah blah
..............................................
which makes me wonder btw,
why does president Trump want to sell agricultural products to the world,
when Kennedy says that it's full of hormones?
I mean, fix it and then we'd buy all the corn and potatoes you guys want us to... makes sense I guess???

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