Why do you think autism rates have increased so much?

[admiral1018]

Autism diagnoses in 8 year-olds are up nearly 500% since 2000. Some of this is obviously the result of changing standards which would not have counted autistic children in 2000, but that doesn't account for nearly enough of the increase to be meaningful.

Note: this is not an anti-vax topic. Kids were getting the same vaccines in 2000 as they are now, and there is no credible evidence that any vaccines have any effect.

[Neuro]

have autism rates increased? well who cares people with autism are cool as ♥♥♥♥ in my experience, they are good people

[Xero_Daxter]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Neuro:

have autism rates increased? well who cares people with autism are cool as ♥♥♥♥ in my experience, they are good people

They are. Matter of fact there's a guy at my job who has down syndrome and he's a sweetheart.

[Doctor Go-Go]

They were ignoring it in the past, the answer to everything was people were either stupid or lazy. They might be misdiagnosing as well as over diagnosing because it's good business now.

[Sidakte]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Echo NO Aim:

Why do I think this thread started becuase the Muricans have a total numbnut as secretary of health?

could very well be but on the other hand we don't really know how many causes are there or how similar they are for the entirety of the spectrum. assuming that 500% is taken for granted for now the percentage seems quite high for 25 years to be attributed to just one common source.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Neuro:

have autism rates increased? well who cares people with autism are cool as ♥♥♥♥ in my experience, they are good people

bingo same.

[Neuro]

Thanks for backing me up Dax, but its just true n stuff.

[Refrain]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από steven1mac:

Kids don't get out enough, and doctors get a kickback from the pharmaceutical industry.

There arent any meds for autism, since you cant cure your neurodivergent ahh ass. How does it work?

[kbiz]

Because it's over diagnosed.

[Dutchgamer1982]

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made up disorder.
(sad as a person with said lable and who have been abused by unwanted medication an till 18yo and I finally by law was alowed to refuse said unneded chemicals and who was talked so many "but you cannot do this for people with autism cannot do this" crap which ofcourse I broke trough

its def not made up non verbal autists are proof of that

as I said I have the lable.
I have been pumped full of those pills as kid and teen. against my will
I have been given all kind of therapy by "expert" bozo's who kept spreading utter nonsence and talking you down...

I had to excape that whole abuse..
and I clearly see the takking people with lables and pumping them full of lables as abuse
i know both from first hand experience... AND from later psychylogy studies I did myself..

the lables are bogus.. exist to sell pills and for society to cast out anybody not fitting their machine.

I know of which I talk.
many of those defending it are those very abusers who WORK "with that kind of people" and who I presume do for the most part with the best of intentions..
and parents.. who again only see from the outside "but child does acts better"
a chained horse with eyepads on.. and in harnass might more functional to society.. but it's an unnatural state.. I broke free am are a wild horse again..

but many of those other "horses" have become docile.. under all the abuse have lost all spirit and have been broken..
tthats not in their interest at all!

you have ANY idea what it does to a kid to from as long as he can remember.. be put in "special schools" where most around you were absolute lunatics.. what are you doing amongst these nutters.. while every normal behavior was analised weirdly.. like you would do normal child shenenigans like steal candy or toss in a window or not make homework.. and they always explain it as part of your disorder.. instead of giving you the beating you should get..
you force people to lable theit bookshelf and clothing "for you people love order" this make normal people developed neurisis they did not even entered with..
you know that you MAKE people insane that way?

to on top be told yeah you can never do this for you are autist, and autist can't do that.
(well screw them I became it anyway and a good one too)
to be compared with a 1 million ferrari without wheels or without engines.
whats worse.. that you cannot even ever be repaired and thus never can join the normal race??
that kind of talk is utterly destructive to the psyche of developing children.. (I had willpower of steel to endure all that most sadly do not)

whole my life I had to fight to excape all that insanity to be treated just normal
for I could never bring a friend home.. would you want make friend with nutters at a special school or bring friends you make at your normal hobbies home to meet the nutters in your boarding school?
no no you will not.. you will keep part of your life hidden until finally as an adult you can escape all that and can start building a life being surounded finally with notmal people.

I much rather be seen as an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ normal person.. than "ahh he has autism can't help it"
for at least if you join the same race as everybody else you sometimes find a person that likes you a job that apreciates you and all that.
while if people know you have a lable.. well than thats all they see.. and you always only get pityatention never can be their equal..

you should NEVER allow society to push you special treatment.. NEVER some paralympics..
for it's much preferable to be an average amateur yet be their equal.. than be the king of the fools.

[doomshadow612]

Food and mostly corn syrup most companies use. Lack of regulation. Corruption. As soon as you point these things out there’s a very big bunch of parrots trained to yell ‘communism’, which obliterates any legitimate discussion. But don’t worry - guys Pfizer and Moderna will fix your health right up. After all - they know what’s better for you. Now take your 20th jab and smile 😊

[Void]

My guess is the rise in geneticly enhanced food and 5G Towers.

[inpurpleshadows]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dutchgamer1982:

made up disorder.
(sad as a person with said lable and who have been abused by unwanted medication an till 18yo and I finally by law was alowed to refuse said unneded chemicals and who was talked so many "but you cannot do this for people with autism cannot do this" crap which ofcourse I broke trough

but so many don't have that strenght and just give up and be whatever "the system" wants them to be.,


good psychiology :
-have known fysical cause, that can be objectively observed
-have clear symtoms that are the same with every patient

quick dsm 4
**take about 50 quirks EVER human in existance has.

list them in 5 lists of 20 *some traits will be on multiple lists)
than arbitarty say you have made up disorder name (insert name)
if you have 7/20 or more traits of said list.

due overlap one can have just 9 traits and have all 5 disorders
but one can also have 20 traits and non more than 6 of 1 of the 5 lists.

give a person who has 7 or more of 20 traits of a lable a name like autist, addh, borderline

insted of actually doing the efford to discover WHY the individual person has said trait and what can be done to treat it.. go full opressive and quack
the lable ofcourse only means.. "you have 7 or more traits of a list without specifying how many, without specifying which ones, without any idea what causes them and without any any if and how they can be treated"

they go "go have them cause you have a label (so you have the lable cause you have the traits and because of the lable you have the traits.. a false logic circle if ever I seen one"
and whats worse they start talking it is incurable.. and thus never put any efford into actually researching whats the cause of your specific traits
whats worse.. people start to make presumptions what people with said lable can and cannot do and like and have for traits.... despite no 2 of them are the same...
***if you not fit their idea of lable. . than they will turn hostile and declare you resisting treatment.. in a way how a person resitsting against slavery or opression would be called hysteric in the past..

and all this was done for one clear reason.. cause they could use medicine in very very very large amounts on these now labled people..
medicine never tested on the young developing minds but ment for alzheimers and psychosis and the such but given to these children nevertheless..
and this makes the pharmaceutical industry billion..

and this is why they pushed giving lable so much for that means more pills prescripted and more profit.

on the other side.. normal kids can be handsfulls.. normal society does not accept boys just being boys.. and want quite unnatural docile behaviour of kids.. and ofcourse to just pump them full of some dope makes them far less tiresome to teachers and parents..
-> and note how many with the lables also have divorsed parents with plenty of flaws..and classes that used to be with 15 kids now have 50.. with teachers mych less skilled managing a class than they used too..
just having your kid tagged a lable.. is a get out of jail free card for them themselves being crap parents/teachers/etc

for adults.. well people who suck in life love some easy excuse "oh I don't have to work on myself I just have lable x" it explains squad.. but people LOVE many up excuses why their life sucking is not their fault.


so why are so many more people (escpecially kids) given lables like autism, adhd and borderline?
**cause it's a convenient excuse for people.. and a moneyprinter for the pharmaceutical industry.

the victems.. the people getting all the abuse.. generally are abused into believing the lies.. few remain strong willed enough to resist it..
and than they might just say to those "well you have a very light variant" or "well you might have been mislabled" or something while the truth is most of those people who have suffered the abuse of labling and medication could have totally normal lifes if they were not stigmatised like that from a young age.

Impressive. You managed to create an essay-length response without saying anything useful.

[Xero_Daxter]

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Impressive. You managed to create an essay-length response without saying anything useful.

It's like writing a loooong message to your crush and she replies with "ok".

[inpurpleshadows]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από inpurpleshadows:

Impressive. You managed to create an essay-length response without saying anything useful.

It's like writing a loooong message to your crush and she replies with "ok".

At least in that case there's some effort to appeal to the one you're talking to. Here, it's just the schizophrenic ramblings of a madman who's probably more autistic than anyone here.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Crystal Sharrd:

More knowledge and awareness.

This.

This is all.

There has to at least be a cause in the first place.
Radiation doesn't exist just because we suddenly became aware of it.
The world would be a lot more like Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends where you can just imagine things into existence if that were the case.

...and if there's a cause, then that cause could increase or decrease.
So is it just more awareness leading to more diagnoses? Maybe. Maybe not.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από admiral1018:

Autism diagnoses in 8 year-olds are up nearly 500% since 2000. Some of this is obviously the result of changing standards which would not have counted autistic children in 2000, but that doesn't account for nearly enough of the increase to be meaningful.

No. So... if you're counting raw numbers, rather than percentages of the total population, then part of it is going to be that population is going up, therefore the raw numbers for everything that occurs in human populations will also be increasing.

Other factors include...
more availability of testing, thus more testing,

awareness, as one person suggested, which isn't quite the same thing as testing or "changing standards" that you mentioned - both of which are different things,

Supposedly there's a strong correlation (though not proof) between autism occurring / developing in places with lots of pollution so... an increase in pollution is probably going to contribute to it too. Both air pollution and other things like microplastics might contribute.

Supposedly it can be inherited.......

[Ulfrinn]

A propensity to over-diagnose the condition so pill pushers can earn millions more on the medications. Now they're calling things that used to be considered normal as being "on the spectrum." Have trouble paying attention? Autism. Pay attention too much? Autism. Hard time retaining information? Autism. Absorb information like a sponge? Autism.

They should have just left it at whether or not you liked Sonic stuff.