Why do you think autism rates have increased so much?

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Autism diagnoses in 8 year-olds are up nearly 500% since 2000. Some of this is obviously the result of changing standards which would not have counted autistic children in 2000, but that doesn't account for nearly enough of the increase to be meaningful.

Note: this is not an anti-vax topic. Kids were getting the same vaccines in 2000 as they are now, and there is no credible evidence that any vaccines have any effect.

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Is there a correlation between the return of war veterans with PTSD and having anxiety disorders run rampant after they have kids?

The effects of a parent 'freaking out' (apologies if anybody is offended i am being as generic as possible and trying from the view of a child witnessing an action) whether it is from PTSD or otherwise can be a significant event for the child and its development and its relationships with its parents .

A problem is especially in the forces of yesteryear was parent could be very high strung from their service, their child witnesses this and has to put up with the behavour but continues a none natural type of parenting for their own children because they were subjected to it growing up and they can be 'worse' in a sense.

It is not Autism though, if that is what you were asking.

This is an interesting piece on the brain if anybody wants to discuss it (I won't just thought it might serve as bit of an anchor in this thread).

{LINK REMOVIDO}https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4688328/

my grandfather who raised my father was in ww2, needless to say i came out weird

[AWAWA Liz]

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Is there a correlation between the return of war veterans with PTSD and having anxiety disorders run rampant after they have kids?

The effects of a parent 'freaking out' (apologies if anybody is offended i am being as generic as possible and trying from the view of a child witnessing an action) whether it is from PTSD or otherwise can be a significant event for the child and its development and its relationships with its parents .

A problem is especially in the forces of yesteryear was parent could be very high strung from their service, their child witnesses this and has to put up with the behavour but continues a none natural type of parenting for their own children because they were subjected to it growing up and they can be 'worse' in a sense.

It is not Autism though, if that is what you were asking.

This is an interesting piece on the brain if anybody wants to discuss it (I won't just thought it might serve as bit of an anchor in this thread).

The reason I ask is that PTSD can have profound effects on future generations. And autism, along with anxiety and depression and other neurodevelopmental conditions can result after one parent or both have developed PTSD and pass that along to their kids.

Oh boy! I got it from both sides! :D Yay... :/

[Boblin the Goblin]

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Escrito originalmente por Hobbit XIII:

The effects of a parent 'freaking out' (apologies if anybody is offended i am being as generic as possible and trying from the view of a child witnessing an action) whether it is from PTSD or otherwise can be a significant event for the child and its development and its relationships with its parents .

A problem is especially in the forces of yesteryear was parent could be very high strung from their service, their child witnesses this and has to put up with the behavour but continues a none natural type of parenting for their own children because they were subjected to it growing up and they can be 'worse' in a sense.

It is not Autism though, if that is what you were asking.

This is an interesting piece on the brain if anybody wants to discuss it (I won't just thought it might serve as bit of an anchor in this thread).

The reason I ask is that PTSD can have profound effects on future generations. And autism, along with anxiety and depression and other neurodevelopmental conditions can result after one parent or both have developed PTSD and pass that along to their kids.

Oh boy! I got it from both sides! :D Yay... :/

PTSD can't be passed on.

[Hobbit XIII]

Escrito originalmente por Watchful Liz:

Escrito originalmente por Hobbit XIII:

The effects of a parent 'freaking out' (apologies if anybody is offended i am being as generic as possible and trying from the view of a child witnessing an action) whether it is from PTSD or otherwise can be a significant event for the child and its development and its relationships with its parents .

A problem is especially in the forces of yesteryear was parent could be very high strung from their service, their child witnesses this and has to put up with the behavour but continues a none natural type of parenting for their own children because they were subjected to it growing up and they can be 'worse' in a sense.

It is not Autism though, if that is what you were asking.

This is an interesting piece on the brain if anybody wants to discuss it (I won't just thought it might serve as bit of an anchor in this thread).

The reason I ask is that PTSD can have profound effects on future generations. And autism, along with anxiety and depression and other neurodevelopmental conditions can result after one parent or both have developed PTSD and pass that along to their kids.

Oh boy! I got it from both sides! :D Yay... :/

I just looked it up and it was not mentioned when I was a support worker my role was working directly with the clients not diagnosing and so on.
BUT there are experiments and links to it I have literally just looked at it these past minutes so will not comment but in mice some scientists are saying about potential links.

[Electric Cupcake]

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over diagnosis and the informational age impairing our social skills. The doctors saying it was vaccine related had their medical licenses taken i believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIcAZxFfrc

After that sh*tstorm, the fact that people still take bastards like RFK seriously is a inescapable indictment of society.

[AWAWA Liz]

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The reason I ask is that PTSD can have profound effects on future generations. And autism, along with anxiety and depression and other neurodevelopmental conditions can result after one parent or both have developed PTSD and pass that along to their kids.

Oh boy! I got it from both sides! :D Yay... :/

PTSD can't be passed on.

No, but it can cause epigenetic changes in molecular DNA. Yes?

[Hobbit XIII]

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PTSD can't be passed on.

No, but it can cause epigenetic changes in molecular DNA. Yes?

I don't talk gangsta but here is a link that might be useful to people.

https://www.ptsduk.org/link-between-autism-and-ptsd/

[hehexd]

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The reason I ask is that PTSD can have profound effects on future generations. And autism, along with anxiety and depression and other neurodevelopmental conditions can result after one parent or both have developed PTSD and pass that along to their kids.

Oh boy! I got it from both sides! :D Yay... :/

PTSD can't be passed on.

the traits almost always get passed onto the child if the main care giver has it, especially in single parent households

[Boblin the Goblin]

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No, but it can cause epigenetic changes in molecular DNA. Yes?

I don't talk gangsta but here is a link that might be useful to people.

https://www.ptsduk.org/link-between-autism-and-ptsd/

That study is about people with autism being more susceptible to PTSD. Not PTSD leading to having children with autism.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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PTSD can't be passed on.

the traits almost always get passed onto the child if the main care giver has it, especially in single parent households

PTSD is caused from an external experience. It isn't a trait. It's a reaction to an event.

[AWAWA Liz]

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I don't talk gangsta but here is a link that might be useful to people.

https://www.ptsduk.org/link-between-autism-and-ptsd/

That study is about people with autism being more susceptible to PTSD. Not PTSD leading to having children with autism.

So would that mean people who have PTSD are more likely to also have autism?

[hehexd]

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the traits almost always get passed onto the child if the main care giver has it, especially in single parent households

PTSD is caused from an external experience. It isn't a trait. It's a reaction to an event.

Parents with it typically create traumatic environments that the child then takes on. I dont mean genetically

[Boblin the Goblin]

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That study is about people with autism being more susceptible to PTSD. Not PTSD leading to having children with autism.

So would that mean people who have PTSD are more likely to also have autism?

No. It just means those with autism are more likely to develop PTSD.

[Bjørn]

Escrito originalmente por Watchful Liz:

The reason I ask is that PTSD can have profound effects on future generations. And autism, along with anxiety and depression and other neurodevelopmental conditions can result after one parent or both have developed PTSD and pass that along to their kids.

Oh boy! I got it from both sides! :D Yay... :/

Is this true? Both of my parents also had it, my father from being torpedoed by a German submarine in WW2, the aftermath and other things (he was old when I was born), and my mother from being sexually abused by her father.

I myself have PTSD from when my father died in a bit dramatic circumstances and other things, but was only recently diagnosed with it, along with AvPD. Worked all my life and kept 'hitting walls', so at least it was nice to finally know why, but too late for treatment.

I'm pretty certain (from self-tests) that I have other things as well (Asbergers tests like 35 out of 40 'score' for example), but I'm not prioritized for any more testing now (keep getting refusals), since I'm getting old and already diagnosed and on disability (which doesn't help with low self-esteem). And there are long queues in the psychiatric health departments here (one disadvantage of government funded healthcare), and young people are prioritized (they have to wait up to a year to talk to someone ).


Anyway, does having parents with PTSD really affect the children? It would explain a lot. They never mentioned this here, but we didn't talk much about my mother and her condition (she was never diagnosed, but I know she had it, after understanding what it was myself, and from what she experienced).

But my father woke up screaming almost every night from the war memories, so no doubt about him, although he was never diagnoses either. Proud captain (on a merchant ship). Different times then, no one saw psychologists, if there even were such here then (he died in 1985 when I was 15). I myself didn't go to one until not long ago (I'm 55 now).


(Btw, I haven't followed this thread much, but only glanced now, so sorry if it's been discussed before. And sorry for suddenly pouring out things about myself like that ).

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