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Time to Accept That Old Games Are Obsolete
If your favorite game doesn’t have NFTs, skill-based matchmaking, or AI-generated characters, you're playing outdated garbage.
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Originally posted by Lime:
Is obsolescence fashionable?

no, ai tend to commit un-a-payrent after two or three years.

whoever meaningfully pretends to be older than that during that time is the elder.
Last edited by rabapraba p; Apr 16 @ 3:15am
All my favourite games are old games BECAUSE of the reasons you listed above (Aside from Stray)
eram Apr 16 @ 3:19am 
guess ill just throw my 900 dos game collection in the bin then
Originally posted by eram:
guess ill just throw my 900 dos game collection in the bin then

what is that like 2mb LOL ANALOG
talemore Apr 16 @ 3:26am 
The AI can construct everything except imperfections.

It is not the best game who wins. It's a gamble.
If the industry could have it you would buy what them consider perfectly working games.

They're not really buying the game but for the feeling it provide.

If you look at games like baldurd's gate 3 it runs awful and it can't even make the cutscenes without bugs.

To them it's not a bug but a feature.

The way to describe a virus is that it keep evolving and it becomes viral. Some ancient poster in the early 00's described our softwares we use today as such:

- A virus spread and is made to evolve and the softwares we created based on staying permanent as such after every update and nothing has changed is not a feature but a bug.

The only reason why we use the x86 was by AMD winning a contract over Intel on a cpu design for coming generation but the x86/x64 was never meant to stay forever.

So it's not really AI. It has never created anything on its own as we humans are the engine who kept it moving forward. It can copy us and with billions of lives the chances are on our side when we have a million of programmers to code the engine. We scanned a brain to find thinking patterns.

But we don't think the same way forever.

Sure, a majority of the industry is run on prayer but it's like a movie director said : I stopped making movies since I don't want to make movies nobody going to watch.

That was what example Walt Disney meant when he said we make movies to make movies.

But these , AI makers, they're not new. AI is old tech today. We just don't see it when everything is working. The construct of shadows in videogames was prefected that not even AI could compete with it.

We just promote AI just for for all other reasons that in the end do you own the software you're using or does it own you?
Originally posted by talemore:
The AI can construct everything except imperfections.

actually ai are great at lying, but terrible at telling the truth. for most of them, playing a game 'fully' is impossible; they'll always be a few fractions short of full competence. humans easily surpass these limits.

the process of machine learning teaches to think around problems, rather than think problems through.
Last edited by rabapraba p; Apr 16 @ 3:29am
Originally posted by Lime:
Is obsolescence fashionable?
Guess I’ll go boot up some “outdated garbage” that doesn’t shove a crypto wallet in my face or match me with esports pros when I just wanna chill.
talemore Apr 16 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by abcd:
Originally posted by talemore:
The AI can construct everything except imperfections.

actually ai are great at lying, but terrible at telling the truth. for most of them, playing a game 'fully' is impossible; they'll always be a few fractions short of full competence. humans easily surpass these limits.

the process of machine learning teaches to think around problems, rather than think problems through.

As example AI does not want to solve the task if it cam bypass it.

I watched a researcher on how machine thinks , It was an old vide from 80's

It was to play "noughts and crosses"

The computer was cornered to lose the game and end up making new rules beyond the borders of the tabletop.

As example of it , procentage % is impossible for it to understand that nothing can be above 100%

I think the witb lying is that it all depend on who you think is lying since knowledge is limited to what information provided.

I see media as promotion of war.

There is no anti- propaganda.

They need you willing to kill people.

The past videogames were directly funded by military.

Ghost Recon was a simulator for soldiers.

The videogames developed to create flight simulators.

If you wanted you could if you have the knowledge download any game and you have the blueprint to automatic missile systems.
Looks like another Jester-farm topic.
Originally posted by PYRO TRADING ⇆:
Originally posted by The nameless Gamer:
Looks like another Jester-farm topic.
Ah yes, classic Jester-farm maneuver say something wildly mid, wait for the smart people to dunk on it, then cry victim for engagement. Rinse and repeat. At this point it's not even bait, it’s a cry for help

NFTs are a SCAM. You can't convince me otherwise.
AI cannot create anything without human input and even if it does, it has no artistic value.
Matchmaking isn't needed in singleplayer games.
Originally posted by Lime:
Originally posted by The nameless Gamer:

NFTs are a SCAM. You can't convince me otherwise.
AI cannot create anything without human input and even if it does, it has no artistic value.
Matchmaking isn't needed in singleplayer games.

Mentioning matchmaking and singleplayer in the same sentence reminds me that i heard of some bigger developers researching adaptive difficulty to make their games more frustrating for players if they are succeeding too much. Like the enemies become more responsive the better the player is performing. It's such a ridiculously malicious design practice It's hard to believe that rather than providing a challenge by tailoring the experience with preset difficulties, they would go to those lengths just to piss people off. Some companies are just destined to fail. c:

Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Imagine playing an RTS against "adaptive" AI, which has easily perform 10.000s APM, can calculate optimal build times and resource gathering rates in a matter of seconds and can memorize every build order of yours. The player could never win.
Originally posted by Lime:
Originally posted by The nameless Gamer:

Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Imagine playing an RTS against "adaptive" AI, which has easily perform 10.000s APM, can calculate optimal build times and resource gathering rates in a matter of seconds and can memorize every build order of yours. The player could never win.
oops i didn't like my closing comment so i deleted it, but yeah its a very scummy thing to do. it's like they don't have a shred of integrity and just want to make a product that will provide a challenge without understanding what makes a challenge rewarding

Well... I think such scams are more a matter of "when" rather than "if" when you look at what corporations pushed and are pushing into video games. Fortunately, as long as independent developers exist, there is hope for gaming.
Fuki Apr 16 @ 5:23am 
Lol, no Jesters.
Aesthier Apr 16 @ 5:35am 
I accept that some individuals don't have quality taste in games and project the lack of such onto others.
Ricky Apr 16 @ 5:37am 
Old Games are obsolete?

So why are some of the most popular games these days, all remasters and remakes of old games?

Those Old Games are the Gems and Classics.
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