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Tex 7 apr @ 17:16 
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Rap is degenerate

No it isn't. Gangsta Rap is degenerate, but it is no more representative of the genre as a whole than death metal is representative of Rock.

Check out any of these tunes by Atmosphere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLF0b_wg-Bg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uEJi0x-49E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s5wPO-QcVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4PSdVCBl0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFt1xMPnkVg

Ok I stand corrected, gangster rap is degenerate
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Know anyone better than Eminem?

Eminem burnt himself out by 2005.

Slug. Best rapper on the planet. The Bob Dylan of the genre. Every track on every Atmosphere album is a masterpiece. 25 years of incredible music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtrcuo0DpWw

Everyone on Atmosphere's Rhymesayers Record Label is at the pinnacle of modern rap, including:

Grieves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5So-_z-jkHE

Prof is hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=221AHxzcXCs

Sa-Roc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ8YYjSwrNc

And others

Sleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiQX8dsO2RU

The Oldominion collective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgK0Hcc4UM

The Isolationist (Anti Pop Consortium)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM9UMerdkF4

Mr. Lif.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJWBJsBRJYA

Proverb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGr-Z0pMI5s

Blast from the past: Definition of Sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnzuPsvqmdE

And let's not forget Coolio (RIP) with what was probably the biggest rap tune of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPO76Jlnz6c
Awesome post, fully agreed. Slug is amazing, Aesop Rock is one of my favorites, too.

Just about everything on Strange Famous Records is excellent, as well.

I can't answer OP's question. It's not a racial team competition. Aesop Rock has been proven to have -- by far -- the largest vocabulary in rap, but Naughty By Nature sold more records. So who's better at the game?
Russians surpass them all.
Doesn't matter, I throw all my wrappers in the trash. :yaranaika:
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Slug. Best rapper on the planet. The Bob Dylan of the genre. Every track on every Atmosphere album is a masterpiece

I've been a fan of Slug and Atmosphere for decades, but saying that every track on every album is a masterpiece is cooked af. Atmosphere are one of the most hit or miss groups I've ever listened to. They do have some masterpieces, but they also have some garbage. Which is to be expected with the amount of albums they put out.

I'll be honest. From Fishing Blues onwards, I haven't been able to listen to everything properly because my memory and concentration are screwed from illness.

But I do remember Seven's Travels and God Loves Ugly and When Life Gives you Lemons and thinking ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! I even remember the very first Atmosphere track I ever heard was If I was Santa Claus from Lucy Ford, and knowing I'd come across something truly special.
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I've been a fan of Slug and Atmosphere for decades, but saying that every track on every album is a masterpiece is cooked af. Atmosphere are one of the most hit or miss groups I've ever listened to. They do have some masterpieces, but they also have some garbage. Which is to be expected with the amount of albums they put out.

I'll be honest. From Fishing Blues onwards, I haven't been able to listen to everything properly because my memory and concentration are screwed from illness.

But I do remember Seven's Travels and God Loves Ugly and When Life Gives you Lemons and thinking ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! I even remember the very first Atmosphere track I ever heard was If I was Santa Claus from Lucy Ford, and knowing I'd come across something truly special.
Seven's Travels, God Loves Ugly, and When Life Gives you Lemons are generally fantastic albums. Post-Fishing Blues, I really like So Many other Realities, but I'm in a similar boat. There's so much good music coming out that I find it hard to dedicate any real time to give new Atmosphere joints a proper listen.
no? there are plenty of good rappers, no race is better than another
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mac miller was the best rapper
https://youtu.be/465GqT_EuUA?si=5oxPs0QDukfkzbE1
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Never could stand rap, I think Vanilla Ice made some waves during the 80's or early 90's but that didn't last. There were a FEW other successful popular short lived rap bands too. The hip hop gimmick.

I think MOST rap was about as publicized as Punk Rock. They had their fan bases but they were small compared to OTHER audiences and OTHER genres. By small I mean percentages not high numbers that would make it SEEM large to some.
Vanilla ice could never rap and he was sued by bowie and wild cherry for copyright infringement.

The Beastie boys was huge in the 80s they always filled every venue they played at. Their fan base was huge. And a lot of other rappers took inspiration from them.
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Just about everything on Strange Famous Records is excellent, as well.

I can't answer OP's question. It's not a racial team competition. Aesop Rock has been proven to have -- by far -- the largest vocabulary in rap, but Naughty By Nature sold more records. So who's better at the game?

Can't judge by those metrics. Naughty by Nature has been selling records longer, and just because you use a wider variety of words doesn't mean you used them well.
Snow was the best white rapper ever. He was Canadian too.

Informer by Snow
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