What If Hitler Had Not Come to Power?

[Fuki]

https://www.historynet.com/what-if-hitler-had-not-come-to-power/

My question was if weimar germany never existed, but this suffices.

[Breathe]

Never discount the option that some other idiot would've just come along with the same bs. Human beings are human beings are human beings.

[76561198356019466]

If there were no nazis there would be no neo nazis, which means the Steam forums wouldn't have nearly as many people in them as they do now.

[xjulep]

Germany would have gone communist and we would be living in a world Utopia for every country except great britain, which would have been nuked

[salamander]

Автор сообщения: 76561198356019466

If there were no nazis there would be no neo nazis, which means the Steam forums wouldn't have nearly as many people in them as they do now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh7_POC2ueQ

[GunsForBucks]

Funny thing is the banksters...

Like the Federal Reserve came into being in 1913... world war one started in 1914. They needed a way to dump the war debt on "the people" to save the corporations from loss.
Make public the loss and private the gains.

WWII - The peace treaty at the end of the war was signed by two blood related brothers.
One each representing the banks of the Axis and Allies.. Both were German.

So, like Trump and the many puppets before him.. Hitler was probably just another puppet to funnel money to the few.

[skOsH♥]

well, for one, there would likely be no Nazi insignia and symbols, and there would be some successful Austrian painter who was good at painting architecture but could not paint faces well

[☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n]

The toothbrush moustache would be in fashion, and the modern day hipsters would all proudly have one!

[Good Night Owl]

Hmhm.

You know, I once saw a picture of Britain looking like a sci-fi, super city. With flying cars and everything. I think it was on Reddit or something. It was all about "What if the Normans never invaded England".

People think things would be way different if that one individual, that ONE degenerate never got into power. People always think that is more likely than that one individual just being one of many. There's a reason why when one political figure dies, the new "Final boss" shows up. Because there's always another waiting to take the opportunity when it comes.

The Normans didn't win because society was prospering (socially I mean. Financially it was rich. But it lacked unity). The took over England because England was a fractured society. Invasion or no, it wasn't an advancing society, and as for Hitler...Hitler was a product of his culture. If he didn't put things in motion, someone else would have.

[salamander]

i wonder what effects a lack of nazi germany would have had on the soviet union? europe was completely ravaged after ww2, and some places are still having scars of the war in the modern day. would the soviet union have still collapsed?

[Gamboll]

Someone else would, it's part of the cycle to hate the juice. We'll have a new uncle H this cycle, watch it. Either way I'm staying neutral, I just wanna have fun, I don't fight wars.

[sleeps]

a most likely case is that he would be replaced by someone else while he pursues his art career

[Cephei]

Автор сообщения: Breathe

Never discount the option that some other idiot would've just come along with the same bs. Human beings are human beings are human beings.

Hitler wasn’t an idiot, far from it. If you rise from nothing to conquer most of Europe through sheer will, strategy and manipulation, you’re not just some fool stumbling into power; you’re a genius in your own twisted way. But genius doesn’t mean infallible. Hitler’s catastrophic blunder was invading Russia, a decision that overextended his forces, underestimated the terrain and resolve of the Soviets and ultimately shattered his empire.

History shows brilliance can coexist with fatal arrogance.

[Haiku's Knife]

I've thought about this and I wish this were the case.

-a lot of people wouldn't have died
-a lot of my people wouldn't have died
-the quality of my people would be better, because too much good genetics went to waste in a senseless war
-nationalism/identitarianism wouldn't be so taboo and weak people wouldn't be able to just write everyone off as "nazis" if they value themselves

That's pretty much it. Hitler was an idiot and could've settled for just ruling Germany peacefully as the economy repaired itself. However, he and his compatriots were greedy and desired more than what they had. That said, Stalin was worse than Hitler (read your history) and there were no "good guys" in WW2. All the sides were trash, as is often the case.

Автор сообщения: GunsForBucks

So, like Trump and the many puppets before him.. Hitler was probably just another puppet to funnel money to the few.

Most US presidents have been puppets to serve capital and democracies corrupt systems as well. Hitler was funded by Wall Street and the National Socialist Party purged the actual anti-capitalist elements in the party with the Night of the Long Knives.

Автор сообщения: Cephei

Hitler wasn’t an idiot, far from it. If you rise from nothing to conquer most of Europe through sheer will, strategy and manipulation, you’re not just some fool stumbling into power; you’re a genius in your own twisted way. But genius doesn’t mean infallible. Hitler’s catastrophic blunder was invading Russia, a decision that overextended his forces, underestimated the terrain and resolve of the Soviets and ultimately shattered his empire.

History shows brilliance can coexist with fatal arrogance.

Hitler wasn't "brilliant" and he was an idiot. His entire rise to power was artificial and stoked by those around him. Without the street work of Rohm and the SA, the NSDAP would've never become so prominent. He had funding from both foreign and domestic interests and was literally only given a year of prison for treason and then up and given the chancellor position to him after being released. He was funneled into power as a tool and did very little by himself in reality. Imagine losing a brutal war and then turning around and agitating for another one, despite the deck being stacked against you. That's nothing but stupidity.

[vkobe]

Автор сообщения: Fuki

https://www.historynet.com/what-if-hitler-had-not-come-to-power/

My question was if weimar germany never existed, but this suffices.

probably franco fail to take power

mussolini probably still invade ethiopia

i still think japan is dumb to invade china and soviet union

atomic bomb is delay until 50s

germany become first country to send rocket to space and will have advance in space technology

europe may stay superpower in 21 century

[vkobe]

Автор сообщения: salamander

i wonder what effects a lack of nazi germany would have had on the soviet union? europe was completely ravaged after ww2, and some places are still having scars of the war in the modern day. would the soviet union have still collapsed?

before ww2 soviet only care about themselves, so without ww2 not warsaw pact, so less money wasting to export communist to other countries, also without ww2 france, uk keep their colonies so soviet not put their nose in european colony

but it doesnt solve soviet economic problem, so i can see soviet become like modern north korea