Dear Trumpists: Articulate what exactly is not fascist about Trump

[TheStoryteller01]

Since I've seen this denial so much, tell me exactly what is not fascist about anything Trump is doing. I'll wait.

[Mina]

who

[YourDoom]

He is comunist.

[Subsonic]

His makeup... oh no, hold on...

[MinionJoe]

Well, we now require voter ID. Just like Germany...

Oh, wait...

[Affronter]

Well, fascism is a collective form of government. The orange pumpkin tends to make his own rash decisions, ignoring feedback from his goons. In a way he more of a dictator than a fascist albeit a fine line at that.

[TheStoryteller01]

Origineel geplaatst door Affronter:

Well, fascism is a collective form of government. The orange pumpkin tends to make his own rash decisions, ignoring feedback from his goons. In a way he more of a dictator than a fascist albeit a fine line at that.

Thats an interesting take, thank you.

[YourDoom]

Origineel geplaatst door Affronter:

Well, fascism is a collective form of government. The orange pumpkin tends to make his own rash decisions, ignoring feedback from his goons. In a way he more of a dictator than a fascist albeit a fine line at that.

You mean "mussolinism". Fascism is something else that is 4.000 years old. Mussolini called it "fascism" because it was a fancy name. Nothing but a dictatorship.

[salamander]

never heard of him. do you mean walter trump the german mathematician?

[TheStoryteller01]

Origineel geplaatst door alex81e17:

Origineel geplaatst door Affronter:

Well, fascism is a collective form of government. The orange pumpkin tends to make his own rash decisions, ignoring feedback from his goons. In a way he more of a dictator than a fascist albeit a fine line at that.

You mean "mussolinism". Fascism is something else that is 4.000 years old. Mussolini called it "fascism" because it was a fancy name. Nothing but a dictatorship.

I don't mean to be rude, but "fancy name" is not what we learned at school.

This is from Wikipedia:

The Italian term fascismo is derived from fascio, meaning 'bundle of sticks', ultimately from the Latin word fasces.[3] This was the name given to political organizations in Italy known as fasci, groups similar to guilds or syndicates. According to Italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini's own account, the Fasces of Revolutionary Action were founded in Italy in 1915.[22] In 1919, Mussolini founded the Italian Fasces of Combat in Milan, which became the National Fascist Party two years later. The fascists came to associate the term with the ancient Roman fasces or fascio littorio,[23] a bundle of rods tied around an axe,[24] an ancient Roman symbol of the authority of the civic magistrate,[25] carried by his lictors.[26] The symbolism of the fasces suggested strength through unity: a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is difficult to break.

[YourDoom]

Origineel geplaatst door TheStoryteller01:

Origineel geplaatst door alex81e17:

You mean "mussolinism". Fascism is something else that is 4.000 years old. Mussolini called it "fascism" because it was a fancy name. Nothing but a dictatorship.

I don't mean to be rude, but "fancy name" is not what we learned at school.

This is from Wikipedia:

The Italian term fascismo is derived from fascio, meaning 'bundle of sticks', ultimately from the Latin word fasces.[3] This was the name given to political organizations in Italy known as fasci, groups similar to guilds or syndicates. According to Italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini's own account, the Fasces of Revolutionary Action were founded in Italy in 1915.[22] In 1919, Mussolini founded the Italian Fasces of Combat in Milan, which became the National Fascist Party two years later. The fascists came to associate the term with the ancient Roman fasces or fascio littorio,[23] a bundle of rods tied around an axe,[24] an ancient Roman symbol of the authority of the civic magistrate,[25] carried by his lictors.[26] The symbolism of the fasces suggested strength through unity: a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is difficult to break.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces#United_States

Where do you think that comes from?

[Stingray_tm]

Origineel geplaatst door Affronter:

Well, fascism is a collective form of government. The orange pumpkin tends to make his own rash decisions, ignoring feedback from his goons. In a way he more of a dictator than a fascist albeit a fine line at that.

That's not true. The OG fascist, Mussolini was a dictator.

Fascism is more defined by its views of alleged past historical greatness, masulinity, naftionalism, traditionalism and the despise for free and open societies. Which apply to Trump.

[YourDoom]

The fascists despised the Parliament, exalted the activism, practiced violence and "politics of the streets" to support Italy’s territorial claims and fight Bolshevism. You people still live 100 years ago.

It's a dictator. Period.

[Stingray_tm]

Origineel geplaatst door alex81e17:

The fascists despised the Parliament, exalted the activism, practiced violence and "politics of the streets" to support Italy’s territorial claims and fight Bolshevism. You people still live 100 years ago.

It's a dictator. Period.

One can be a dictator and a fascist at the same time...

How about we get into the details of fascism and see, if it applies to the Trump government. Since it is quite popular, I would go with Umberto Ecco, unless you want to suggest a different scholar.

[YourDoom]

Origineel geplaatst door Stingray_tm:

Origineel geplaatst door alex81e17:

The fascists despised the Parliament, exalted the activism, practiced violence and "politics of the streets" to support Italy’s territorial claims and fight Bolshevism. You people still live 100 years ago.

It's a dictator. Period.

One can be a dictator and a fascist at the same time...

No, because the "fascism" under mussolini was about colonies and the war against the communism. It's old history.

Where do you see Bolshevism today, a part for an fool who lives in russia.

PS: I know Umberto Eco pretty well. I know you want to link his 13 signs of the fascism.

[Astrallight]

Trump admire Putin so he now want to become just like him in his own country.