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Mega Ultra Chicken (Avstängd) 22 mar @ 20:37
Trump wants a ‘golden dome’ to defend the entire US
Why doesn't Trump stop making enemies that want to shoot missiles at us instead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaJ7nW0kK8E
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Hmm so he wants cut government spending and he comes up with this? I mean yea that defense dome will be totally free :steamfacepalm: To be clear not against it, but it's a VERY, VERY expensive system
Senast ändrad av SpeedFreak1972; 23 mar @ 1:30
Ursprungligen skrivet av Mega Ultra Chicken:
Why doesn't Trump stop making enemies that want to shoot missiles at us instead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaJ7nW0kK8E
ABM defense goes as far back as the ICBM. The ABM was outlawed when the US and Soviets signed the treaty banning warfare in space.

The USSR had an ABM system to defend Moscow, but it's probably in disrepair. The US has an active one in the midwest surrounding a Minute Man battery of ICBMs.
Because realpolitik never stops. The vast majority of "enemies" any person or nation has aren't actually enemies because of something the other entity did. It's because they desire something. Land, resources, power, security, wealth, etc. The justifications for war are almost always an afterthought, and revenge is very rarely the case.

Attempting to appease such enemies, unless you manage it through economic interdependence, is sheer folly. Note the corporate sector. How often go they go to war? Never, because doing so would be inefficient, unless a government is paying. That would be mercantilism. How often do governments go to war? All the time, because they do not have to rely on mutually beneficial transaction, or even diplomacy, as a matter of course. They absolutely will attack if they think they can get something out of it, because they're not the ones actually making or earning any wealth. The only thing keeping them in power is a focus on remaining in power.

Trump, whatever you think of his business acumen, is a businessman. He wants the US to have economic superiority first and foremost. This is wise, because it involves everyone's self-interest. To have that, business needs security, and since the US is the global hegemon, that means a strong military as well. Our ships police the world's trade lanes. Our aircraft promise swift retribution to any violators, and our dominance of space means that nobody gets any satellite service unless the US permits it.

That could certainly piss some people off, if they conveniently forget that the US is the most benevolent superpower the world has ever known. If they somehow forgot how dependent they were on US trade, and how gentle it is, compared to, say, any empire in history. The Brits were close, being very amenable to trade, but they also cut off a lot of trade or banned it to ensure they would remain at the top. It didn't work. Ultimately, their ability to support their globe-spanning military was lost, because their trade couldn't support it.

Trump is clearly aiming for more "fair trade" practices, and while I have issue with some of the ways he goes about it, he is preferring peace, and he is showing that. A defensive system merely makes the US exactly what the entire world needs: a place to do business with security.

The only problem is if that falls into the wrong hands, like those of the Leftists.It would give them a bastion to attack the world. But it's not really a unique problem, because they are already bent on global dominance, and if Trump doesn't take the initiative now, if he doesn't show how beneficial the market can be for everyone, they absolutely will use the security to actually threaten other nations. They already have, every single time. So have some on the Right. One way or another, nobody kills their own livelihood, and so the US is the best bet to create a better peace.
Huge waste of taxpayer money. Who tf would dare to attack the US anyway?
Ursprungligen skrivet av Blunt Raps:
Gonna outsource cheap labor and end up with an orange dome, just like under the toupee.

immigrants are still cool with donald duck and elon as long as they work for cheap!
Quick note, the Soviets came up with a direct energy based ABM technology--not LASERs, but pushed it aside for whatever reason (cost?). The US experimented with it, but found it to have issues with guidance. The beam acted more like lightening than an energy beam focused on one spot, and whipped in all kinds of directions.

I looked at it, and in the Soviet application, it had the potential to cover a massive area with a kind of "shield" (not really a shield) that would help deter warheads. At least in theory. The heat shielding on MIRVed warheads might interfere with such a technology, but only partially, but maybe enough to render the shield useless.
Val 23 mar @ 3:10 
Ursprungligen skrivet av SEVENFOLD:
OP, you are here posting bs literally every single day all day...

do you even game bro?

Modern PC gaming kinda sucks. I'm waiting for Nintendo Switch 2
Ursprungligen skrivet av SEVENFOLD:
OP, you are here posting bs literally every single day all day...

do you even game bro?

i post here every day too, i just post in between games. it is fun, ay!
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Ursprungligen skrivet av Mega Ultra Chicken:
Why doesn't Trump stop making enemies that want to shoot missiles at us instead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaJ7nW0kK8E
ABM defense goes as far back as the ICBM. The ABM was outlawed when the US and Soviets signed the treaty banning warfare in space.

The USSR had an ABM system to defend Moscow, but it's probably in disrepair. The US has an active one in the midwest surrounding a Minute Man battery of ICBMs.
we dont know if abm work in nuclear war, because we didnt test nuclear explosion in space and upper atmosphere since half century, we know nuclear explosion can emp satellite and affect electric installation on earth, nuclear explosion can blind radar

so think icbm carry 12 nukes go boom in low orbit you going to blind radar and mess abm

also i dont exclude using ground laser and ground radar to neutralize satellite in low orbit to cripple capacity to observe country from space, so without satellite you cut by half capacity to detect incoming icbm
Ursprungligen skrivet av Mega Ultra Chicken:
Why doesn't Trump stop making enemies that want to shoot missiles at us instead?
Last time he did that Democrats screeched about him making friends with North Korea.
Ursprungligen skrivet av salamander:
Ursprungligen skrivet av SEVENFOLD:
OP, you are here posting bs literally every single day all day...

do you even game bro?

i post here every day too, i just post in between games. it is fun, ay!
They are wumao or euro equivelant.
Ursprungligen skrivet av Mega Ultra Chicken:
Trump wants a ‘golden dome’ to defend the entire US

What Trump actually wants is a way to keep Amercans IN the US and everybody else OUT.

And for once, I think its a GREAT IDEA.

Turning the whole of the USA into a maximum security prison with no-one getting in or out would solve a lot of problems for the USA as well as the rest of the world.

Go, Donald!
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Ursprungligen skrivet av Mega Ultra Chicken:
Trump wants a ‘golden dome’ to defend the entire US

What Trump actually wants is a way to keep Amercans IN the US and everybody else OUT.

And for once, I think its a GREAT IDEA.

Turning the whole of the USA into a maximum security prison with no-one getting in or out would solve a lot of problems for the USA as well as the rest of the world.

Go, Donald!
If people were ballistic missiles, there might have been a relevant point about the Golden Dome in there somewhere.

I blame the failure of the education system.
Ursprungligen skrivet av WeeHawky Boomhauer was right:
You don't think we had STAR WARS for years??
I'd always wondered. The project was too big to keep secret, so there was news about it everywhere.

Then, suddenly, it was determined to be "unfeasible" and every aspect of it was unceremoniously dropped.

There were dozens of components that made up Star Wars, yet it was decided that all of it just wouldn't work.
Senast ändrad av MinionJoe; 23 mar @ 9:12
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Ursprungligen skrivet av Blunt Raps:
Gonna outsource cheap labor and end up with an orange dome, just like under the toupee.

immigrants are still cool with donald duck and elon as long as they work for cheap!
They always say "make america great again"

But they never mention anything about the americans themselves :steamsad:
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