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Dom 2 月 28 日 上午 10:42
Failed president Trump's failed Ukraine peace plan
Trump has failed. Let's see why...

Russia: We do not allow European peacekeepers on Ukraine's territory.
European peacekeepers were essential part of Trump's peace plan.

Zelenskyy leaving White House ahead of time, press conference cancelled after Trump, Vance and Zelenskyy got into a verbal fight.

Trump said if we cannot get deal done, "you'll fight it and we're out".

Trump promised to end the war in 24 hours. It was his campaign promise.

Failed president.
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Dom 2 月 28 日 上午 10:46 
I would add a poll if Steam allowed.

What's the reason Trump failed?

A) Terrible peace plan (from the beginning),
B) Trump's terrible negotiation skills,
C) Both A and B combined.
D) His tendency to promise things to his voters that he simply cannot deliver.
MinionJoe 2 月 28 日 上午 10:47 
We'll just rename Ukraine to West Russia and be done with it.

Zelensky clearly doesn't want peace for his country.

And we all know what the media response would have been if Trump had forced peace upon him.

This way is faster and cheaper for the United States.
最后由 MinionJoe 编辑于; 2 月 28 日 上午 10:49
eram 2 月 28 日 上午 10:47 
gaming on steam this weekend
Peace plan lol, you mean predatory extortion plan.
$2 Hero 2 月 28 日 上午 10:54 
A Jewish man will never listen to a goyim.
引用自 Dom
I would add a poll if Steam allowed.

What's the reason Trump failed?

A) Terrible peace plan (from the beginning),
B) Trump's terrible negotiation skills,
C) Both A and B combined.
D) His tendency to promise things to his voters that he simply cannot deliver.
D and C
Dom 2 月 28 日 上午 10:57 
引用自 MinionJoe
We'll just rename Ukraine to West Russia and be done with it.

Zelensky clearly doesn't want peace for his country.

And we all know what the media response would have been if Trump had forced peace upon him.

This way is faster and cheaper for the United States.
Trump got angry because Zelenskyy pointed out that it's very difficult if not impossible to get Russia to uphold any agreements they get into. He even pointed this out with concrete examples from the past where Russia did violate agreements.

People get angry when they hear truths that they don't want to hear.
Stingray_tm 2 月 28 日 上午 10:58 
引用自 Dom
D) His tendency to promise things to his voters that he simply cannot deliver.

He learned, that he doesn't need to deliver, since his minions are treating his promises, like they already happened. And when they don't they switch the subject. Often to transgender issues. Because that's all they got.
MinionJoe 2 月 28 日 上午 11:00 
引用自 Dom
引用自 MinionJoe
We'll just rename Ukraine to West Russia and be done with it.

Zelensky clearly doesn't want peace for his country.

And we all know what the media response would have been if Trump had forced peace upon him.

This way is faster and cheaper for the United States.
Trump got angry because Zelenskyy pointed out that it's very difficult if not impossible to get Russia to uphold any agreements they get into. He even pointed this out with concrete examples from the past where Russia did violate agreements.

People get angry when they hear truths that they don't want to hear.
Zelensky is more than welcome to seek his assurances that Russia will uphold its agreements from the EU.
Holografix 2 月 28 日 上午 11:05 
引用自 Stingray_tm
引用自 Dom
D) His tendency to promise things to his voters that he simply cannot deliver.

He learned, that he doesn't need to deliver, since his minions are treating his promises, like they already happened. And when they don't they switch the subject. Often to transgender issues. Because that's all they got.
yah, this is the reality. trump's minions will gaslight themselves to support him. i can't help to think that's it's over for the USA. can't even look at the news anymore.
Lady Miquella 2 月 28 日 上午 11:06 
Get the peacekeepers to push Russia back and out of Ukraine, then bill Russia for the damage they've caused.
xBCxRangers 2 月 28 日 上午 11:09 
Well, Trumps biggest fault was getting involved in this in the first place. He should have packed our toys and just stayed out of it.

But of course, he had dollar signs in his eyes, and is obsessed with sucking up every drop of oil and gas in Ukraine.

The issue of course is, most of those minerals, are in territories occupied by the Russians.

Just pack it up, and stay out of other affairs, Mr Trump.
lol, without US help the war will be over in 24 hours. Trump was right.
lol, without US help the war will be over in 24 hours. Trump was right.

Somehow, I doubt that.

Military equipment doesn't always win wars, the Americans learned that when they fought the Taliban and Vietcong.
Stingray_tm 2 月 28 日 上午 11:21 
引用自 Arvaos
lol, without US help the war will be over in 24 hours. Trump was right.

Somehow, I doubt that.

Military equipment doesn't always win wars, the Americans learned that when they fought the Taliban and Vietcong.


Ukraine has the capability to continue the fight at least for several months, even if all Western support ceased today. And they would continue fighting and hope for something to happen, like Trump and/or Putin dying.
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