Is it just me, or is the quality of everything going downhill?

[FighterSoldier]

I am starting to think that the quality of products and things were much better back then than they are now. A lot of people are telling me that things were higher quality back then too, so has everything have actually gone down in quality? If so that means the quality of everything is going downhill while also becoming more expensive...

[tallgeese]

Welcome to the enshittification of the world, brought to you by late stage capitalism.

[Triple G]

So basically quality of life is going downhill...

But it might also be that we depend on more material things nowadays, and buy more stuff which we don´t need.

I guess it depends on the products - and on the manufacturer. Like You can´t really compare a 70´s car with a modern one. A modern one has far more gimmicks which can break, while an old car is a mechanical machine. It probably lasts longer without repairs, but it´s also less convenient.

[Ice Robertson]

Umm no.

like i worked on an 80386 for example and today's technology is way better, Even a pentium 4 or core i7 2600k.

A fridge will use less power than my dad's old beer fridge.

My TV uses less power and has better connectivity than my old 4 channel 21 inch crt.

I can go on if you want, like a car from the 1950's breaking down every fives minutes compared to something newer lasting ages.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

Dei doi

But the old fridge last 30 years new fridge last 8 years
Stuff like that

[Yew Nough]

In order to retain profits, the product has to be profitable.

That means shrinkflation, switching to cheaper materials/ingredients, cutting corners on R&D/Engineering/Safety, etc, etc.

So yes, stuff was better and more durable once upon a time, and now it's been downscaled due to greed, AKA

tallgeese lähetti viestin:

late stage capitalism.

[Yew Nough]

Ice Robertson lähetti viestin:

Umm no.

like i worked on an 80386 for example and today's technology is way better, Even a pentium 4 or core i7 2600k.

A fridge will use less power than my dad's old beer fridge.

My TV uses less power and has better connectivity than my old 4 channel 21 inch crt.

I can go on if you want, like a car from the 1950's breaking down every fives minutes compared to something newer lasting ages.

You also have to consider planned obsolescence and how it's baked into modern day products.

That wasn't an issue back then.

[Triple G]

I mean there are still producers who produce for the love of the product, and not for the love of money. Sadly these also tend to be more expensive.

[Boblin the Goblin]

tallgeese lähetti viestin:

Welcome to the enshittification of the world, brought to you by late stage capitalism.

It's been "late stage capitalism" for almost 60 years.

[FighterSoldier]

Yew Nough lähetti viestin:

Ice Robertson lähetti viestin:

Umm no.

like i worked on an 80386 for example and today's technology is way better, Even a pentium 4 or core i7 2600k.

A fridge will use less power than my dad's old beer fridge.

My TV uses less power and has better connectivity than my old 4 channel 21 inch crt.

I can go on if you want, like a car from the 1950's breaking down every fives minutes compared to something newer lasting ages.

You also have to consider planned obsolescence and how it's baked into modern day products.

That wasn't an issue back then.

Isn't higher quality products more expensive though, like really expensive?

Also yeah I heard of cutting corners and planned obsolescence, but is this really in every product and creation these days?

[Ice Robertson]

Yew Nough lähetti viestin:

You also have to consider planned obsolescence and how it's baked into modern day products.

That wasn't an issue back then.

Yeah i mean they try to stop users using XP or windows 7 from using steam, i think for the most part they did but that really sucks.

like Total annihilation ran well on my pentium 3 but i can't run a core 2 duo with xp on steam. (Well some people do try to get round things)

[Ganger]

As someone who has lived through the 80's and 90's, I gotta say the OP has a point. I believe the west has already reached it's peak and it's all downhill from this point. The power is shifting from the west to the east because we screwed up and they is no turning back.

[Goldias]

Because most items are now made in china.

[Under there]

uhhhhhhh because covid

[FighterSoldier]

Ganger lähetti viestin:

As someone who has lived through the 80's and 90's, I gotta say the OP has a point. I believe the west has already reached it's peak and it's all downhill from this point. The power is shifting from the west to the east because we screwed up and they is no turning back.

Japan is doing much better than the west for sure!

[Jazz]

you're only now realizing this??