China nuke

[vkobe]

seem china already have over 600 nukes

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/18/pentagon-report-china-nuclear-weapons-00195031

[BR B-263-54]

Ursprungligen skrivet av vkobe:

seem china already have over 600 nukes

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/18/pentagon-report-china-nuclear-weapons-00195031

They're a well established nuclear power verging on a super power.

What else would you expect?

[Fake]

Only 600? Those are rookie numbers.

[Angel]

China will probably not use them but sell them to the highest bidder.

*Whispers*
I won't mention how much Nukes America has.

[Ice Robertson]

I think the more nuclear weapons every country has the safer we will be.

If a nuclear war started we would obliterate ourselves, Thus no one will want to start that.

[abcd]

Do any of them work for non-testing purposes?

I'm referring to everyone's arsenal with this question; not just China.

Does pushing the button work anymore, or does it just make you comically ♥♥♥♥ your pants in ways that ought to be physically impossible?

[Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ice Robertson:

I think the more nuclear weapons every country has the safer we will be.

If a nuclear war started we would obliterate ourselves, Thus no one will want to start that.

it is human to err

[secuda]

*shrugs* okay.

[BR B-263-54]

Ursprungligen skrivet av abcd:

Do any of them work for non-testing purposes?

I'm referring to everyone's arsenal with this question; not just China.

Does pushing the button work anymore, or does it just make you comically ♥♥♥♥ your pants in ways that ought to be physically impossible?

Concensus is China and Russia is debatable in today's world.

Both militaries within both nations are heavily corrupt, China had an issue at one point where missile fuel had been sold off on the black market and when it came to a live test commanders discovered tanks had been filled with water.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/chinas-waterlogged-missiles-dont-matter

I'd say unreliable.

There is a big question mark around Britain's ability to fire a nuke without authorisation from the US given the trident system is managed top end by the US - we supposedly have operational independence but who really knows.


https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-trident-nuclear-program/
US is self explanatory.

France has infrastructure and have maintained operational independence with their nuclear arsenal, personally I think France is in a better position than the UK on this front.

[Delta]

We should get rid of our nukes along with Russia and China.

Can't we just live in peace?

Spread love not war

[abcd]

Ursprungligen skrivet av BR B-263-54:

Ursprungligen skrivet av abcd:

Do any of them work for non-testing purposes?

I'm referring to everyone's arsenal with this question; not just China.

Does pushing the button work anymore, or does it just make you comically ♥♥♥♥ your pants in ways that ought to be physically impossible?

Concensus is China and Russia is debatable in today's world.

Both militaries within both nations are heavily corrupt, China had an issue at one point where missile fuel had been sold off on the black market and when it came to a live test commanders discovered tanks had been filled with water.

I'd say unreliable.

There is a big question mark around Britain's ability to fire a nuke without authorisation from the US given the trident system is managed top end by the US - we supposedly have operational independence but who really knows.

US is self explanatory.

France has infrastructure and have maintained operational independence with their nuclear arsenal, personally I think France is in a better position than the UK on this front.

I don't see what that has to do with my question at all.

Do the nukes work, or are they props?

[vkobe]

Ursprungligen skrivet av BR B-263-54:

Ursprungligen skrivet av vkobe:

seem china already have over 600 nukes

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/18/pentagon-report-china-nuclear-weapons-00195031

They're a well established nuclear power verging on a super power.

What else would you expect?

wiki say they have more nukes on their icbm than united state

[BR B-263-54]

Ursprungligen skrivet av abcd:

Ursprungligen skrivet av BR B-263-54:

Concensus is China and Russia is debatable in today's world.

Both militaries within both nations are heavily corrupt, China had an issue at one point where missile fuel had been sold off on the black market and when it came to a live test commanders discovered tanks had been filled with water.

I'd say unreliable.

There is a big question mark around Britain's ability to fire a nuke without authorisation from the US given the trident system is managed top end by the US - we supposedly have operational independence but who really knows.

US is self explanatory.

France has infrastructure and have maintained operational independence with their nuclear arsenal, personally I think France is in a better position than the UK on this front.

I don't see what that has to do with my question at all.

You asked if any of them worked for non-testing purposes.

The answer is "meh maybe for China/Russia but corruption seriously limits their capability."

[BR B-263-54]

Ursprungligen skrivet av abcd:

Ursprungligen skrivet av BR B-263-54:

Concensus is China and Russia is debatable in today's world.

Both militaries within both nations are heavily corrupt, China had an issue at one point where missile fuel had been sold off on the black market and when it came to a live test commanders discovered tanks had been filled with water.

I'd say unreliable.

There is a big question mark around Britain's ability to fire a nuke without authorisation from the US given the trident system is managed top end by the US - we supposedly have operational independence but who really knows.

US is self explanatory.

France has infrastructure and have maintained operational independence with their nuclear arsenal, personally I think France is in a better position than the UK on this front.

I don't see what that has to do with my question at all.

Do the nukes work, or are they props?

Do nukes work as a weapon system? Yes.

[marcusaddamsson]

When it's all said and done... it would take a "special" kinda human to actually push the button that annihilates the human race. I mean, up and down the entire "decision tree" from the President to the guy that actually pushes the button. And even if the process is automated, there's gotta be N number of failsafes, etc.

Given the number of decades we've been living under the threat and how many semi-crazy people that get close to the Button in that time... that's the only explanation I have. You just gotta be seriously ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy to push it.

[abcd]

Ursprungligen skrivet av BR B-263-54:

Ursprungligen skrivet av abcd:

I don't see what that has to do with my question at all.

You asked if any of them worked for non-testing purposes.

The answer is "meh maybe for China/Russia but corruption seriously limits their capability."

So there are barriers to even discovering if they work or not.