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DOGE-Y America
The DOGE team is handed a list of American spies around the world by the CIA...
(to do their so-called job of seeing if they are DEI or something?)

Then both the FBI and CIA are all sent "buy out" quit your job position emails.

Your US Shadow President Elon Musk being from South Africa himself, originally wanted foreigners within the DOGE team.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told Americans that DOGE is not allowed to write new code. Yet one of the DOGE team oldest (who's 25 years old - since the group age ranges from just 19 to 25) had both read and write access into the US Treasury.

First Lady Trump claimed that if there's any "conflict of interest" with Elon Musk or the DOGE team, that US Shadow President Elon Musk is in charge of looking over that and will disband them.

Now that's a concern isn't it?

Do you believe they can be trusted?

Selling out to another country perhaps?

Is Trump even in charge of anything or just sold out to a bunch of billionaires and/or Project 2025 to create an American Autocracy?

Any concerns or possible conflict of interest?

Or are they just really, really bad at handling all your data and being fully transparent in their actions?

Wake up America.

- DOGE Team foreign members has been blocked
- DOGE Team write access to the US Treasury has been revoked
- DOGE Team blocked from further accessing government databases
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Masque Feb 6 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Azza ☠:
Trump created the shadow government we are talking about right now called "DOGE", for example.

But (leaving aside the fact that you've said it's Musk on top, not Trump) it's not "shadow" anything. It's wildly, unprecedentedly transparent. Those he hired to do this are known, their names are known, their backgrounds are known, and they even give press conferences and sit for interviews.

"Shadow" in this context would mean "hidden from view", wouldn't it? Like whoever (we still have only speculative ideas) was running the Oval Office for the entire past administration. Who was it? Who knows? It's a mystery.

There's no "shadow government" under Donald Trump. He's attempting to eliminate this disastrous aspect of Washington, D.C., and somehow you're mad about it?

To think Donald Trump, duly elected, is a "coup" is an admission that you believe the unelected bureaucracy is the real government. Not the elected President doing what he was elected to do, but the formerly-permanent, unelected shadow government. They're the REAL government. Electing a President to root out corruption? Now THAT'S a coup.

All I can do is shake my head, smile, and chuckle sardonically at the disconnect.
nohuman Feb 6 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by Masque:
Originally posted by Azza ☠:
Trump created the shadow government we are talking about right now called "DOGE", for example.

But (leaving aside the fact that you've said it's Musk on top, not Trump) it's not "shadow" anything. It's wildly, unprecedentedly transparent. Those he hired to do this are known, their names are known, their backgrounds are known, and they even give press conferences and sit for interviews.

"Shadow" in this context would mean "hidden from view", wouldn't it? Like whoever (we still have only speculative ideas) was running the Oval Office for the entire past administration. Who was it? Who knows? It's a mystery.

There's no "shadow government" under Donald Trump. He's attempting to eliminate this disastrous aspect of Washington, D.C., and somehow you're mad about it?

To think Donald Trump, duly elected, is a "coup" is an admission that you believe the unelected bureaucracy is the real government. Not the elected President doing what he was elected to do, but the formerly-permanent, unelected shadow government. They're the REAL government. Electing a President to root out corruption? Now THAT'S a coup.

All I can do is shake my head, smile, and chuckle sardonically at the disconnect.
https://youtu.be/Tg53zeCwgnY
Originally posted by Masque:
Originally posted by Azza ☠:
Trump created the shadow government we are talking about right now called "DOGE", for example.

But (leaving aside the fact that you've said it's Musk on top, not Trump) it's not "shadow" anything. It's wildly, unprecedentedly transparent. Those he hired to do this are known, their names are known, their backgrounds are known, and they even give press conferences and sit for interviews.

"Shadow" in this context would mean "hidden from view", wouldn't it? Like whoever (we still have only speculative ideas) was running the Oval Office for the entire past administration. Who was it? Who knows? It's a mystery.

There's no "shadow government" under Donald Trump. He's attempting to eliminate this disastrous aspect of Washington, D.C., and somehow you're mad about it?

To think Donald Trump, duly elected, is a "coup" is an admission that you believe the unelected bureaucracy is the real government. Not the elected President doing what he was elected to do, but the formerly-permanent, unelected shadow government. They're the REAL government. Electing a President to root out corruption? Now THAT'S a coup.

All I can do is shake my head, smile, and chuckle sardonically at the disconnect.

Ask yourself who they are working for and how transparent they are about doing that.

I'll give you a hint, it surely isn't for the average American Citizen.
They need to lock up Musk. No telling what he may have compromised for his own benefit.

We need to make sure everything still works and isn't booby trapped before you let him go.

Then we need to appoint an independent commission to go in and clean out the filth on both sides.

We need to make changes like reversing corporations being people and trickle down economics.
We need to undo the law making it illegal to disagree with the government before it's too late.
We need to undo the law allowing indefinite detention of Americans without charges or right to trial.


These are the basics before we can even start to deal with the bigger issues but we need the people to decide, not the corporations.
Last edited by GunsForBucks; Feb 6 @ 3:19pm
Masque Feb 6 @ 3:18pm 
Trump approved individual loans?

No, Azza. He did not. The unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats who stay in D.C. no matter who is in office -- they approved PPP loans.

You never showed any concern, by the way, about an unelected group of unknowns controlling our government for the past four years. Every day of Biden's administration, your target -- literally your main target -- was Trump, and everyone here bore witness to it. Every day.

You cannot pretend away your entire comment history. Well, you can but.... it just looks silly.
Talby Feb 6 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by JTS:
Before the Trump administration closed USAID’s doors, the agency regularly routed funding to causes aligned with George Soros’ nonprofit empire, terrorists and drag queens.

The agency came under scrutiny from the new administration over failures to ensure transparency in its funding to organizations across the globe and concerns that the leadership was not responding to explicit policy directives from the State Department and the wider executive branch to align its programs with Trump policies and the U.S. national interest.

In recent days, the Trump administration identified USAID programs ranging from contraceptives for Afghanistan to LGBT diversity programs for European countries as clear evidence that foreign aid needed to be paused and reevaluated, a task that fell to the Rubio State Department.

The development agency for years also funneled money to several nonprofit groups that also received substantial backing from components of George Soros’ empire. Some previously came under scrutiny during the Obama administration for “democracy promotion” and judicial reform efforts in European countries that critics claimed promoted leftist politics.

For example, U.S. government spending records show that the East-West Management Institute, which is in part backed by Soros’ Open Society Foundations, received more than $260 million over the years in grants from USAID to, among other things, promote the rule of law in Georgia, strengthen civil society in Uganda, and advance Serbia’s accession talks with the European Union.

That same nonprofit group came under scrutiny during the Obama administration after Judicial Watch uncovered government records and communications showing that the East-West Management Institute’s “Justice for All” campaign in Albania received $9 million in funding from USAID.

The assistance concerned several GOP Senators, who sent a letter to the newly appointed Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in 2017, alleging the campaign funded by the U.S. government helped craft an Albanian judicial reform proposal that may “give the Prime Minister and left-of-center government full control over the judiciary.”

Those same Senators also raised concerns about a similar Soros-backed program in neighboring Macedonia where they said a local affiliate called Foundation Open Society-Macedonia received backing from USAID through the Open Society Foundations and pushed “a progressive agenda.”

Other Soros-backed organizations that received funding from both his Open Society Foundations network and USAID include the Anti-Corruption Action Center in Ukraine and Transparency International.

According to the group's own records, the Anti-Corruption Action Center began receiving funding from USAID the same year the Maidan Revolution overthrew Ukraine’s elected, Russian-friendly President Viktor Yanukovych. The group, by its own admission, was heavily critical of Yanukovych’s government and ministers, which aligned with U.S. State Department policy at the time. During the 2014 Maidan Revolution, then-Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland visited Ukraine and was recorded on a leaked phone call discussing how the United States could influence the formation of a new government in Kyiv.

George Soros’ Open Society Foundations did not respond to a request for comment.

After temporarily shutting down USAID operation, the Trump administration defended the move, citing other left-wing causes that received funding grants from the agency. White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt highlighted several when speaking with reporters on Monday, including $1.5 million for diversity measures in Serbia, $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru, and $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland.

House Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Brian Mast, R-Fla., also flagged other examples of USAID funding, including $15 million for condoms sent to Taliban-controlled Afghanistan and over $3 million for “being LGBTQ in the Caribbean.”

The government watchdog overseeing the agency also warned USAID’s leadership in a stinging January memo that it had created serious "vulnerabilities" by doling out billions of tax dollars to overseas countries and groups without fulling vetting for terrorists. That inspector general’s report also determined that USAID grants were being insufficiently monitored.

In one egregious example, a Syrian national was charged by the Justice Department last year for diverting more than $9 million worth of humanitarian aid paid for by USAID to a designated terrorist group affiliated with Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

The suspect, Mahmoud Al Hafyan, was the head of a Syrian nongovernmental organization that employed 160 individuals and was awarded $122 million by USAID between January 2015 and November 2018, according to the Justice Department. That money was designated to pay for food kits for Syrian refugees fleeing conflict zones.

During this contract, the Justice Department alleges Al Hafyan worked with co-conspirators to funnel “millions” in food kits on the black market to the Al-Nusra Front, a local Al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria that is also designated a terrorist organization by the United States.

The USAID inspector general warned about the limits on the agency’s ability to monitor expenditures for programs in “nonpermissive” environments, like the conflict zones in Syria, meaning what happened there could happen in other places, like Ukraine or Gaza, where there are similar international or local organizations operating that are recipients of U.S. cash.

In another example, food aid in Ethiopia was diverted to warring armies in the Tigray region. According to reporting from Reuters, the UN’s World Food Program — a close partner of USAID — was aware that aid was being stolen from its programs for years before the discovery. In all, thousands of tons of USAID-funded grain shipments meant to feed the hungry in the midst of the civil conflict were diverted.

source[justthenews.com]
Originally posted by Masque:
Trump approved individual loans?

No, Azza. He did not. The unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats who stay in D.C. no matter who is in office -- they approved PPP loans.

You never showed any concern, by the way, about an unelected group of unknowns controlling our government for the past four years. Every day of Biden's administration, your target -- literally your main target -- was Trump, and everyone here bore witness to it. Every day.

You cannot pretend away your entire comment history. Well, you can but.... it just looks silly.

Trump signed the PPP Loan bill into law and had a few large businesses tied to himself and his own Trump administration.

More than half of the roughly $525 billion in loans just went towards the top 5% of over 5 million. Of which was the larger business, trump linked businesses, billionaires, cults, and trump's admin linked businesses.

Priority right?

Anyways, the entire point I just mentioned that, was the very same could be easily applied upon the DOGE team. I at least question that.

I trust them less than I do most of the scammers I have scam-baited. Perhaps I had trust issues, due to not having a short term memory lost like Trump and the MAGA cult seems to have? Trump can't even remember the bills he signed into action from last term and already spewing hatred at them demanding to want to know who wrote that (censored). Perhaps he can't read and others just hand him the papers to sign for? Or the Trump family dementia is really starting to kick into gear, if not the compulsive lying.
Last edited by Azza ☠; Feb 6 @ 3:31pm
Recap:

US Shadow President Elon Musk and his non-confirmed Government agency DOGE allegedly began taking over Federal Systems without "Prior Authorization".

And he "began making changes" (important to note) because only the US Congress is allowed to decide what changes are made to Government Agencies. Plus the restructuring of who runs them, and funding changes, etc. All of that is controlled by US Congress.

Now this was done through Trump's executive order bypassing US Congress completely.

That's likely a violation of "Cyber Security" and "Federal Records" Laws.

It also violates "The Separation of Powers" Act.

This is also a series of "Security Clearance" Violations. If Elon Musk even accessed these systems, it's a violation of "Security Clearance Protocols".

Now Trump did signed to get Elon Musk a Security Clearance, but that takes weeks, which likely means he didn't have any when started. If not cleared - That would be a violation of "The Espionage Act" on Trump's end. Yet given it - Bypassing Congressional Approval, that's a violation of "The Appointment's Clause" and "The Separation of Powers".

That's not just the US law, but the US Constitution.

What does this mean for Elon Musk, if he bypassed before Security Clearance, he won't be able to get that Security Clearance and already disqualified. You can not do that via just Trump's executive order.

If Trump overrides the standard "Security Clearance" procedures for Elon Musk, that's grounds for "Impeachment" as well as "Congressional Investigations" and "Lawsuits".
Originally posted by Azza ☠:
Originally posted by eram:
They took 7 million in expenses for the 1st week of work.

Yeah, that too. To me, all this seems very questionable and almost insane, but perhaps it's normal there?

An initial $750,000 on Jan 27th 2025, yet followed by $6 million on Jan 30th 2025 for so-called “unanticipated needs” to some fabricated DOGE team of a billionaire who takes the most US Government Funding for himself. Needing more US tax payers money for his team.
If Trump and musk took all of America's money and left to a country with no extradition treaty and the Maga being blinded by his lies and seeing them as truth will still see him as a good person who can do no wrong.
You gotta admit though, this is all kind of hilarious. I mean, deregulation has being a cry out for many Americans for years, now they are about to get a taste of it.

It´s a shame though Trump is also messing with international stuff, he should stick to America since he´s entire thing is "make America great again", don´t think the Gaza thing or tariffs are precisely on that direction since both are cost money to Americans rather than generate it for them.

As for Elon, something tells me eventually the American public will realize the actual cost of everything he´s making and then start finally questioning why a south african billionaire has any saying on how the american government functions. Off course it will be too late when that happens, but I pressume they will try that it never happens again (or one would hope, we in Europe already had 2 world wars due to nationalism and yet here we are again, with nationalism raising again... we humans aren´t very good at learning long term).
Originally posted by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect:
Originally posted by Azza ☠:

Yeah, that too. To me, all this seems very questionable and almost insane, but perhaps it's normal there?

An initial $750,000 on Jan 27th 2025, yet followed by $6 million on Jan 30th 2025 for so-called “unanticipated needs” to some fabricated DOGE team of a billionaire who takes the most US Government Funding for himself. Needing more US tax payers money for his team.
If Trump and musk took all of America's money and left to a country with no extradition treaty and the Maga being blinded by his lies and seeing them as truth will still see him as a good person who can do no wrong.
If they took all of America's money, then the U.S. Dollar would collapse and it'd be useless.
Originally posted by Crystal Sharrd:
Originally posted by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect:
If Trump and musk took all of America's money and left to a country with no extradition treaty and the Maga being blinded by his lies and seeing them as truth will still see him as a good person who can do no wrong.
If they took all of America's money, then the U.S. Dollar would collapse and it'd be useless.
Exactly. Which it seems is what they are going to do since most of trumps and musks money is in off shore accounts so it won't hurt them at all.
Originally posted by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect:
Originally posted by Crystal Sharrd:
If they took all of America's money, then the U.S. Dollar would collapse and it'd be useless.
Exactly. Which it seems is what they are going to do since most of trumps and musks money is in off shore accounts so it won't hurt them at all.

Or under Cryptocurrency...

Notice the Meme coins "pumps and dumps" from both of them? Well that's one way to scam your own supporters, but also money launder and transfer across the world to even foreign countries, etc.

Elon Musk's attempting to also add xMoney Cryptocurrency into xTwitter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DT7bX-B1Mg
Last edited by Azza ☠; Feb 7 @ 8:16am
Ulfrinn Feb 7 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Mad Scientist:
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
OP lost all credibility on his "Elon is the boogieman" threads given he makes a new one about every 8 hours.
Yup.

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
No, because I do not care that he triggers you. I care that you constantly spam OT with the same repeated information. You being triggered by him shouldn't be my problem.
Makes you wonder if USAID has been paying people to post anti trump/elon/right threads like politico on popular sites, doesn't it? :BL3Thinking:

Originally posted by Azza ☠:
Yet none of that is related to the DOGE team access into your own American systems. Except for the fact the Five Eyes, consider Trump's own team picks and Elon Musk a great security risk, that they will no longer share intelligence with America.
Long term corrupt government & politicians fear auditing thus accountability. Seems many politicians getting money may be directly linked to misappropriated funds from usaid, to companies involved in distributing it, then eventually receiving kickbacks down the chain. :humiliation:

Others are just swinging at DOGE/elon because 'influencers'/streamers/paid actors and many others are being funneled stolen taxpayer money, so they're no longer going to get their money.

He also makes it a point to make sure to include certain buzzwords and phrases. Calling Elon a "shadow president" or Trump "first lady." Accusing Musk of being in the US illegally. Has to write a new sentence unrelated to the rest of his topic just so he can work in "Project 2025." It's all so choreographed. Not to mention constantly copy/pasting the same Youtube videos in several of his posts.

Paid political pundits are actually given a list of such things to work into posts, vlogs, videos, etc in order to spread a specific message.
With the support of First Lady Trump, the DOGE-Y team will now aim to make so-called "rapid safety upgrades" to the American air traffic control system.

Elon Musk quote: "Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!"

Oh really... and who created that issue in the first place after getting rid of even the head of the FAA, freezing it's hiring and funds? I'll give you a clue it wasn't the DEI who was around for 15 years without a single crash before Trump/Musk messed with it.

No one else even questioning this and asking why?

If it was me, I'll be doing a security lock door and checking for backdoor RATs, data leaks, etc. They are clearly overstepping and taking over your US Systems / US Treasury for "reasons".
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