Trump pauses Tariffs with Mexico. But claims will "Definitely happen with EU".

[xBCxRangers]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-americans-may-feel-pain-trade-war-with-mexico-canada-china-2025-02-03/

[Altimely]

lol what a loser

[Voroff]

Well, isnt the US duty to guard its own borders ? Why is this Mexican-only duty to do it ? :D Listening to him, it's almost as Mexican peeps and gov are willing to pass fentanyl and illegal throught the border - which is a non sense. But blaming others is Trump's game.

Ho, and he wants to tariif the EU ? Is the EU flooding in the US the illegals or drugs ? Wait, i've heard during Afghanistan war that the planes transporting the coffins - the coffing were filled with as much opium drugs the CIA could fill them without them cracking open. Afghan war ends, opium disapears from the streets and replaced by fent'. Reader, be a good american and demand explanations to your local CIA outpost.

So, the tariffs on EU ... i quote the article :
"Speaking in Washington on Sunday after returning from his Mar-a-Lago estate, Trump indicated that the 27-nation European Union would be next in the firing line, but did not say when.

"They don't take our cars, they don't take our farm products. They take almost nothing and we take everything from them," he told reporters.
(...)
The U.S. is the EU's largest trade and investment partner. According to the Eurostat data from 2023, the United States had a deficit of 155.8 billion euros ($161.6 billion) with the EU in the trade of goods, offset by a surplus of 104 billion euros in services."

1) Good luck replacing the trade goods you buy from EU with another source.
2) We do not want your hormon-filled, pesticide-gorged effing CORN*. Try to produce something the EU wants, and then the EU will buy it from ye. We have food regulations that forbids the US products, because the US products are filled to the bri with cheap sh!t. Look on youtube for Iwrocker (or something) for his Fanta comparisons.
3) we dont want your oversized cars. We just want good ars that are safe. Able to produce those ? No ? We dont want your cybertrucks and other trucks-disguised-as-cars-to trump-US-regulations. Again, try producing something of value.

*To be fair, the US do not only produces corn. There are Florida oranges (filled with hormons and pesticides) and some almonds (filled with, you guessed it ...)



Anyone of the current Americans care to come to Europe and try how our chocolate tastes like ? It tastes like freedom, it tastes like liberty. It does not taste like sh!t.

[Ray Rook]

Chocolate uses slave labor. We try to source ours better than the EU.

Also, it's a myth. I prefer US chocolate that isn't Hershey's. When you all keep claiming EU has better chocolate people keep thinking Hershey's is all the chocolate in the US.

Mexico allows the illegal immigrants to flow through their southern border and northern border.

Asking them to be better neighbors and to control their cartels is not unfair.

[Tonepoet]

Originally posted by Altimely:

lol what a loser

Why are you calling Trump a loser? They're doing exactly what he demanded of them, and he's holding up his end of the bargain for now.

Looks like he won to me.

[Tito Shivan]

So a charade of placing soldiers on Mexico's side of the frontier is enough to calm the orange manbaby? That deal could have been achieved without turning the stock market upside down and breaking any trust for business deals the US may have left.

Originally posted by Voroff:

"They don't take our cars, they don't take our farm products. They take almost nothing and we take everything from them," he told reporters.

"Sorry for having standards. Sincerely, The European Union"

Originally posted by Voroff:

There are Florida oranges (filled with hormons and pesticides)

If you want great oranges, come to Valencia, in Spain.

[Voroff]

Originally posted by Ray Rook:

Chocolate uses slave labor. We try to source ours better than the EU.

1) Also, it's a myth. I prefer US chocolate that isn't Hershey's. When you all keep claiming EU has better chocolate people keep thinking Hershey's is all the chocolate in the US.
(...)

2) Asking them to be better neighbors and to control their cartels is not unfair.

1) Ho ? You ready to take a flight to Paris with samples of your "chocolate" ? I'll harbor you for a week - free of charges except the food you'll eat.


2) But - protecting your own borders is what, unfair and too difficult ?

[Tonepoet]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

So a charade of placing soldiers on Mexico's side of the frontier is enough to calm the orange manbaby? That deal could have been achieved without turning the stock market upside down and breaking any trust for business deals the US may have left.

He only paused it for a month, likely to give them a chance to prove themselves. If they don't actually send that border patrol, and maintain it, we're probably saying tariffs are back on.

Originally posted by Voroff:

Well, isnt the US duty to guard its own borders ? Why is this Mexican-only duty to do it ? :D Listening to him, it's almost as Mexican peeps and gov are willing to pass fentanyl and illegal throught the border - which is a non sense. But blaming others is Trump's game.

Both countries share a responsibility to protect the border they share, but if one country's slacking it's only reasonable for the other to want them to pick it up.

[vkobe]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-americans-may-feel-pain-trade-war-with-mexico-canada-china-2025-02-03/

lol the guy already backstep after pressure from american companies and citizen, seem even republican are not happy to join this lunatic

[Ray Rook]

Originally posted by Voroff:

Originally posted by Ray Rook:

Chocolate uses slave labor. We try to source ours better than the EU.

1) Also, it's a myth. I prefer US chocolate that isn't Hershey's. When you all keep claiming EU has better chocolate people keep thinking Hershey's is all the chocolate in the US.
(...)

2) Asking them to be better neighbors and to control their cartels is not unfair.

1) Ho ? You ready to take a flight to Paris with samples of your "chocolate" ? I'll harbor you for a week - free of charges except the food you'll eat.


2) But - protecting your own borders is what, unfair and too difficult ?

No. I have tasted chocolate in Europe, the Middle East, and Southern Asia/some Islands.

I have tasted chocolate in the US. Our chocolate is fine. I'm not a huge chocolate person. Everything besides Hershey's tastes good to me.

Plus, I'll take our candy bars any day over anything Europe produces of a similar nature and purpose. That's the funny thing, you all just think you're better. You have no grounds for the analysis.

I've lived in these places.

I know Spain has more fried food than us in Winter. I know Germany has bland food and foul tasting water.

You're picking and choosing things you want to highlight.

And PARIS is by far one of the most overrated places. Ya'll are lucky people still do tourism there. The people hate tourists. I've never met a person that's been in the last decade that wants to ever return or recommend it.

Regarding our borders, we can't send our military into Mexico to deal with the cartels. The cartels are organizing illegal immigration and selling their services in doing it.

So yes, Mexico and the US have to cooperate on the border. Just like most other countries in the world.

Now answer my question, why do you all have expectations that the US deal with it's borders and illegal immigrants different than other major countries in the world?

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by vkobe:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-americans-may-feel-pain-trade-war-with-mexico-canada-china-2025-02-03/

lol the guy already backstep after pressure from american companies and citizen, seem even republican are not happy to join this lunatic

I guess you can see it both ways, in that the Dow did drop more than 600 points at the open, and maybe Trump tried to negate that.

On the other hand, Mexico is sending 10k troops to the border. Meaning, they capitulated.

On another article i read, the Mexican President also demanded the cease of American weapon trafficking into Mexico into the hands of the cartels.

Don't know if the latter has been proven true, but that would mean Trump also had to reciprocate.

All in all however, we have to admit, as much at times i don't want too, is that Trump is winning and is going to get his way apparently. Canada next, and our friends in the EU soon to come.

I think China can just withstand the 10%, because they can. That's likely just the truth of the matter.

[Voroff]

Originally posted by Ray Rook:

1) No. I have tasted chocolate in Europe, the Middle East, and Southern Asia/some Islands.

I have tasted chocolate in the US. Our chocolate is fine. I'm not a huge chocolate person. Everything besides Hershey's tastes good to me.
(...)
2) Regarding our borders, we can't send our military into Mexico to deal with the cartels. The cartels are organizing illegal immigration and selling their services in doing it.
3) Now answer my question, why do you all have expectations that the US deal with it's borders and illegal immigrants different than other major countries in the world?

1) I see, Monsieur est un connaisseur ! :D Fine, you do you.
2) What is even that wording ? So, by your own standards, you considering in a perfect world that Mexico should send it's army in the US to control the border and catch the end-point of the traffickers or something ?
3) I do not, i'm just pointing out the weak-sauce US efforts to police it's own borders and the hypocrisy of blaming the other side (very american political thing to do by the way, since Reagan i think). You want to keep things out ? Build a wall - with your own funds. 'nuff said.

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by Voroff:

"They don't take our cars, they don't take our farm products. They take almost nothing and we take everything from them," he told reporters.

"Sorry for having standards. Sincerely, The European Union"

Originally posted by Voroff:

There are Florida oranges (filled with hormons and pesticides)

If you want great oranges, come to Valencia, in Spain.

Huhuhu, that's kinda the point. And for oranges, most i'm seeing in the markets are from Spain, Portugal, Algeria and Israel - but that's the mass-commercial stuff

[Original Cast Recording]

Yeah, it's almost like all the people arguing about this (pros and cons) don't actually know what's going to happen after all. Almost like all the bickering is just different shades of cope.

[Ulfrinn]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by vkobe:

lol the guy already backstep after pressure from american companies and citizen, seem even republican are not happy to join this lunatic

I guess you can see it both ways, in that the Dow did drop more than 600 points at the open, and maybe Trump tried to negate that.

On the other hand, Mexico is sending 10k troops to the border. Meaning, they capitulated.

On another article i read, the Mexican President also demanded the cease of American weapon trafficking into Mexico into the hands of the cartels.

Don't know if the latter has been proven true, but that would mean Trump also had to reciprocate.

All in all however, we have to admit, as much at times i don't want too, is that Trump is winning and is going to get his way apparently. Canada next, and our friends in the EU soon to come.

I think China can just withstand the 10%, because they can. That's likely just the truth of the matter.

I posted the numbers in another thread, only about 17% of guns used in crimes in Mexico come from the US. Mexico has tried to claim more in order to try to get capitulations from the US government, and because the Mexican leadership tend to be closer with the far left party in the US. If it was such a problem for Mexico, why weren't they protecting their border in the first place?

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

All in all however, we have to admit, as much at times i don't want too, is that Trump is winning and is going to get his way apparently. Canada next, and our friends in the EU soon to come.

He's not winning, he's making you think he is (and people are eating it hook, like and sinker). México has made a purely token gesture and gotten 30 days to prepare for the next tantrum or the tariffs when they hit back.

[Plaid]

too bad stuff made in teh United States is of lower quality :/

Can we fix that too? Can we get the poisons out of our food so I'm not encouraged to buy from other sources?