Tariffs are bad, Bad, BAD!!!!!!!!!

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Lambros 31.1. klo 23.45

Tariffs are bad, Bad, BAD!!!!!!!!! (In Dana Carvey's George Bush voice)

I will say it in a way the RED NECKS will understand me.

Dear Ginger Neck,

Did you like it when Shareef Abdul Raheem took a knee for the national anthem? The first sports star to do so?

Well Tariffs are no better you will be paying 25% more for a vital good like guacamole that assumes you are not using an inferior synthetic product. And thus will have a nightmare of a Superbowl because of it.

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Troll 1.2. klo 1.29

America will overcome it, always has and always will

#31

Immortalis 1.2. klo 1.36

doug lähetti viestin:
Ulfrinn lähetti viestin:
Tariffs are bad? But funding the economy of our largest adversary isn't? Yeah, it doesn't bother me any. China is not only robbing the Us with it's trade practices, but other nations we'd be trading with if China didn't use slave labor to undercut them on the international market.
That's just the free market that you know and love. Tariffs make it less free.

Not really.
The issue here is that the playing field is indeed not level and therefore, by definition, the market is not free because someone enjoys advantages (or all the others are burdened down).

US companies have to follow countless regulations, from environment and pollution, to labour, to tax and so forth. And all those regulations have a cost (at times a very high cost - for example, producing steel in such a way as to minimise pollution and the environmental impact of that production).
Chinese companies do not and as a result it is cheaper to produce steel in China (or other countries in similar conditions) and then import it because even factoring in the logistic costs, domestic production would still be higher.

Tariffs merely seek to bring the situation to a proper equilibrium so that this external factors (which are not controlled by the companies) are taken out of the equation.
And then companies will have to compete on the basis of their products quality, of who’s more efficient and so forth.

And that’s without even touching the whole trademark infringement and disregard for the rules of the WTO that China is so fond of.

Or the violation of human rights - as in the case of the genocide of the Uyghurs - for which economic sanctions and tariffs on import have always been the go to solution (as was the case with South Africa during the Apartheid or Japan as a consequence of the Sino-Japanese war).

#32

Pocahawtness 1.2. klo 1.54

Just let Trump shoot himself in the foot. Americans will not be pleased when prices go up.

#33

unskilled- 1.2. klo 1.58

Pocahawtness lähetti viestin:
Just let Trump shoot himself in the foot. Americans will not be pleased when prices go up.

Maybe it'll be like the assassination attempt and he'll slide his foot away at the last second.

Kinda like Columbia refusing their nationals before sending presidential plane over. Every other nation is talking tough but will they blink first and gave and negotiate to appease trump and remove tariffs?

#34

Professor 1.2. klo 2.03

The global import export market has never been a level playing field & the protectionist measure of tariffs only reduces the diversity of goods available to them. If something is heavily taxed you may find that people can no longer afford certain products so they are stuck with the things produced internally which reduces the overall diversity of goods within that market.

We only need to look at the poorer countries who import very little or nothing at all, they have 1 type of car, 2 types of food, 3 types of soda, 4 types of medicine, so on & so on. Tariffs as a form of protectionism only benefits a very small number of industries as it is impossible to protect them all with tariffs alone.

Viimeisin muokkaaja on Professor; 1.2. klo 2.15

#35

Cee 1.2. klo 2.21

Tariffs = a tax on imports from an exporter, which the importer pays and not the exporter. The importer then puts the value of the tariff onto the price so they can pay it off.

For a wealthy nation like the U.S., your cheap products are a repercussion of imperialism and cheap imports from exporters

If tariffs are enacted upon -- which they likely are!!! -- then the customer bears the whole brunt of the increased price.
If imported metal gets a 10% tariff, electronics get a 25% tariff, then yout electronic products like a coffee machine will cost perhaps a quarter or a third more than previously.

YES -- tariffs WILL make countries *eventually* shift into home-made production... but a lot of products can't be made in your own country. Northern European countries cannot grown coffee beans or bananas. And even if they can be, Northern European worker protections are so much better in-comparison-to China or Brazil, for example, and the prices will be insurmountably higher than previously as a result.

You will pay the tariff. Not the 'enemy country'. Your life will get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You will cry about increased expenditure.

Viimeisin muokkaaja on Cee; 1.2. klo 2.23

#36

Bathtub Shitter 1.2. klo 2.24

Trump tax gud. Librals berry berry bad.

#37

Oneeyed 1.2. klo 2.53

Lambros lähetti viestin:
Tariffs are bad, Bad, BAD!!!!!!!!! (In Dana Carvey's George Bush voice)

I will say it in a way the RED NECKS will understand me.

Dear Ginger Neck,

Did you like it when Shareef Abdul Raheem took a knee for the national anthem? The first sports star to do so?

Well Tariffs are no better you will be paying 25% more for a vital good like guacamole that assumes you are not using an inferior synthetic product. And thus will have a nightmare of a Superbowl because of it. :babawk: :cowbessie: :cryptothink:

Well the EU exports more to the US so a tariff would damage EU more than the US. But of course you are right it would damage US too and prices for european goods will rise.

But Trump thinks it will also make companies reconsider and produce more in the US directly just so they dont have to pay the tariffs.

It also a big risk because it could damage relations between europe and the US very badly.

I guess he is just bluffing like always and hopes europe will just tuck tail. And this is very probable. Look just how Denmark is already caving under the pressure and thinking about giving Greenland to the US completely for free. Now Trump has just to give the greenland people some incentive and they will vote for joining the US. It didnt cost him anything. Greenland is worth about 5 trillion USD and he pays nothing.

I bet a lot of the spineless european governments will just comply.

#38

Troll 1.2. klo 3.12

Muse lähetti viestin:
Tariffs = a tax on imports from an exporter, which the importer pays and not the exporter. The importer then puts the value of the tariff onto the price so they can pay it off.

For a wealthy nation like the U.S., your cheap products are a repercussion of imperialism and cheap imports from exporters

If tariffs are enacted upon -- which they likely are!!! -- then the customer bears the whole brunt of the increased price.
If imported metal gets a 10% tariff, electronics get a 25% tariff, then yout electronic products like a coffee machine will cost perhaps a quarter or a third more than previously.

YES -- tariffs WILL make countries *eventually* shift into home-made production... but a lot of products can't be made in your own country. Northern European countries cannot grown coffee beans or bananas. And even if they can be, Northern European worker protections are so much better in-comparison-to China or Brazil, for example, and the prices will be insurmountably higher than previously as a result.

You will pay the tariff. Not the 'enemy country'. Your life will get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You will cry about increased expenditure.

I'll deal with it

#39

SpeedFreak1972 1.2. klo 3.25

Yeezus lähetti viestin:
Muse lähetti viestin:
Tariffs = a tax on imports from an exporter, which the importer pays and not the exporter. The importer then puts the value of the tariff onto the price so they can pay it off.

For a wealthy nation like the U.S., your cheap products are a repercussion of imperialism and cheap imports from exporters

If tariffs are enacted upon -- which they likely are!!! -- then the customer bears the whole brunt of the increased price.
If imported metal gets a 10% tariff, electronics get a 25% tariff, then yout electronic products like a coffee machine will cost perhaps a quarter or a third more than previously.

YES -- tariffs WILL make countries *eventually* shift into home-made production... but a lot of products can't be made in your own country. Northern European countries cannot grown coffee beans or bananas. And even if they can be, Northern European worker protections are so much better in-comparison-to China or Brazil, for example, and the prices will be insurmountably higher than previously as a result.

You will pay the tariff. Not the 'enemy country'. Your life will get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You will cry about increased expenditure.
I'll deal with it

Yea till means job loss, because nobody buys your product anymore due to those tariffs on resources

And keep in mind if the EU does the same name 1 reason why we should buy your products?
I think Elon wouldn't be happy if his cars wouldn't sell due to a price hike

Viimeisin muokkaaja on SpeedFreak1972; 1.2. klo 3.28

#40

Pieshaman 1.2. klo 3.40

but china tariff only 10% and not 25% like mexico and canada.
you going to keep buy from china in america.
trump is an idiot to give his "friends" a 25% tariff and the "enemy" only 10%
only a grandmaster clown would come up with dumb ideas like this

#41

Dom 1.2. klo 3.41

It went from "cost of living crisis is sooo bad bidenflation ree" to "doesn't matter if prices raise under Mus.. I mean Trump, we'll deal with it, it's only right".

If this isn't a cult then I don't know what is.

#42

Cee 1.2. klo 3.56

Yeezus lähetti viestin:
Muse lähetti viestin:
You will pay the tariff. Not the 'enemy country'. Your life will get ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You will cry about increased expenditure.
I'll deal with it

Okay, that doesn't mean everyone will.
And it will make tens of thousands of people homeless

There are very few logical reasons for tariffs, for example African countries -- but USA isn't Africa, it is the defacto richest country.

Dom lähetti viestin:
It went from "cost of living crisis is sooo bad bidenflation" to "We'll deal with it, it's only right".

If this isn't a cult then I don't know what is.

It is pretty funny how the switch-up happened. If Biden had done tariffs, like he did to electrical vehicles, I wouldnt be surprised if conservatives would be against them for the inflationary reasons.

#43