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stingylettuce 11 янв в 4:59

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I should've never made the original post, now I have a Jester on my profile.

Отредактировано stingylettuce; 15 мар в 17:10

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Автор сообщения: Disgruntled Cuttlefish:

Edited for clarity: Also sometimes here I say "you" a lot, wasn't referring to you OP, just the public in general where it would apply.

Anyway, people who focus on complaining about semantics of genocide and comparing it to World War 2 only or something... pretty laughable. As they sit there refusing to actually acknowledge what's going on and how the Israelis actually are. It's hard to do that and also find it so easy to dismiss the genocide description. As they artificially, intentionally starve children to death etc. etc. etc.

Hell no it isn't Gaza, but I'm guessing many idiotic journalists, mostly working for outlets like Fox, CNN, MSNBC, BBC etc. will have no qualm about making that comparison. Although to many of them and the horrible news outlets they work for, it's often easier to avoid the topic altogether and omit it entirely to not bring it up.

After all, the pro-Israeli mainstream corporate media is afraid of showing anything realistic or describing anything realistic etc. about what's going on actually.

It's usually in the context of giving the Israelis 95% of the time of day. Another example is, refusing to rightfully describe activity of the IDF like it should be.

Instead of letting you know how many Palestinians died in the past 48 hours or whatever in Gaza, these folks would rather omit it entirely for the day and talk about October 7th again, probably interview some Israelis etc. That's about it usually.

One has to completely deny the reality of what's going on in, has gone on in Gaza, in order to think anything is justified with what Israel does, or blaming it on Hamas. Total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

The IDF is far, far worse than Hamas. It's not even comparable.

Israel has violated the peace try with Egypt, by probably among other stuff, occupying the Philadelphi corridor. Egypt should tear it up.

Let's face it, that was nothing to write home about and what it primarily achieved was securing Israel from Egypt and further dismissing Palestinian existence.

The more Arab nations that normalize relations with Israel, the worse it tends to get for any hope for Palestinian self determination and liberation.

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/over-250-humanitarian-and-human-rights-organisations-join-call-end-arms-transfers-israel

There is so, so much BS in these threads about Israel and Palestine (one of which exists, the other does not -- and Israel likes it that way, they never had any intention of realistic peace, and past "accomplishments" from the US etc have been anything but successes).

Thankfully, OP of this thread doesn't sound like one to spew that nonsense. It'll still attract the disinfo and misinfo of course. In a sense, this is a tangible part of the problem just like the media reflecting what I'm talking about here, with the comments many users will make here. That's who you have in common with the issue, your corporate media masters who brainwashed you into believing that the foreign policy isn't ♥♥♥♥.

Go ahead though folks, and help the media and your govt in dehumanizing Palestinians and convincing the public they are the "problem", as is described in a recent BS article I read off of some think tank's site probably, forgot what exactly but if not the media will repeat some of the same lies otherwise regardless.

So yeah, you think that Israel doesn't know what it's doing when it, for example, bombs an entire apartment building filled with tons of people, no combatants, and claim that the reason why, in their sick minds it's justified, is that one of them is an off duty member of Hamas or some related faction (not that they'd admit to use that wording).

Even assuming that were true, it's still absolutely disgusting and changes nothing of course. And it's even more obvious because so much of what they have is precise, has clear optics and cameras, etc. So kind of hard to idiotically justify them basically carpet bombing sections of Northern Gaza for example with very little advanced warning, if any, and even then often in areas designated as "safe areas" which the IDF has violated tens of thousands of times etc. etc.

Also fun fact, a bunch of foreign medical volunteers who have went to Gaza (including western/Euro ones) have all said that it was BS about them fantastically accusing Al-Shifa hospital of being a command center, or whatever. As it turned out they never produced any viable evidence, only ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, including the pic with the laptop with some discs stacked on top, of what they never said or showed, then when sleuths online point out at it's a model computer without a DVD drive or whatever, they delete the photo off of some social media.

So, there must've been super secret invisible command centers at all of the other dozens of major hospitals all over they totally obliterated and slaughtered children outside of. Totally justifies it all, nothing to see here.

::repeat propaganda lie here from IDF spokesperson that idiot western mainstream journalists follow around::... including when they are shown a calendar in Arabic, in a hospital and... that's all (I have a calendar in English on my wall, does that mean I'm a terrorist?). But instead the spokesperson says it's evidence of militant activity.

CNN was warned before they aired it also including by some of their own employees that it was BS also. Ridiculous. And no, Fox News is worse or as bad about that issue.

Despicable how they try to lie about justifying attacking hospitals. The real reason is a few wounded former combatants made it there who probably have no weapons by the time their nearly lifeless or mangled body was brought there.

It's like saying it'd be justified to bomb some civilians hospitals in the US who house some wounded war vets that immediately, recently came home from war, that is if they stayed at the civilian hospital as a fair comparison. Or the hospital in Germany, whatever, close enough comparison, except that it needs to be civilian and with foreign medical volunteers who have all claimed that the IDF is full of ♥♥♥♥ and obviously lying about any "command centers" or any other BS.

Автор сообщения: Immortalis
Anything that happened and happens in Gaza is on Hamas.

Total BS. Just dismissing anything the Israeli military does.

Regurgitating Israeli and western mainstream media propaganda, repeating propaganda an IDF spokesperson would say which is what the mainstream media does.

They're afraid to actually show what's going on there.

First for launching their attack on civilians, then for refusing time and again to free the hostages and surrender those responsible for October 7.

Hamas made attempt after attempt to secure a deal, Netanyahu and most of the Israeli political establishment didn't seem to interested. They'd rather keep the bombing, killing going, and the ball has been in their damn court since 1967, at least.

More people have been born in Gaza than those that were killed.

That's nothing to write home about. In fact, it's absurd at best, and appalling and disgusting at worst to say this.

Wow. That's just abhorrent for anyone to say things like this.

Israel has complete air superiority and can easily launch artillery strikes from over the border.

You're right, and the ball is entirely in their court. They do what they do with impunity because they can get away with it, if the US and some of the west didn't have their backs unconditionally then they would've had to play much nicer and engage in actual peace a long time ago.

Instead they’re sending their soldiers in on the ground, and risking their lives precisely to minimise civilian casualties

If they wanted to commit a genocide they would have.

They are. And several organizations including Amnesty Intl, ICJ and many others, officially or unofficially, all think they are doing so as well.

Just refresh the page once to get rid of the subscribe window: https://www.commondreams.org/news/channel-14-israel

As it turns out, the Israeli public are part of the same animal. And after all the Israeli public at large, all walks of Israeli life, poorer and richer, are in the ranks of the military reserves who have taken part in the genocide. It's a fallacy to separate the two, the public from the govt, when it's probably the biggest enabler in the first place. It's noticeable if taking note that most of them don't care about Palestinians and primarily overwhelmingly only protest about the captives.

They also lie about how many captives they keep on bombing themselves, after Netanyahu and Israeli govt have repeatedly refused to secure a deal and engage in negotiation etc. Instead they'd rather keep the bombing and killing going.

Aside from everything else, Netanyahu has a stake in keeping conflict going in whatever form it is, whether they shift from Gaza to Iran next, or whatever. It's so he can avoid criminal prosecution etc. for his corruption issues that existed well before Oct 7.

But yes, apart from that, a war and a wildfire are different scenarios

No ♥♥♥♥? But, it's not "just war" though, implying like someone is forced into doing anything. BS.

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Mad Scientist 11 янв в 5:03

I have not seen anyone make such comparisons. At the most I've seen a well known OT divisive account compare it to 9/11 probably just to try trolling reactions out of people.

Although a few people were caught/recorded setting some of the LA fires, so arson is definitely intentional.

Phénomènes Mystiques 11 янв в 5:09

I saw the map of "brush" fires and many of the smaller fires are from arsonists.

Plus, check this out, Wall Street Journal, along with the National Weather Service, is stoking the flames (no pun intended) for more arsonists to start more fires east of San Diego as they stated, "Conditions down there east of San Diego could be even worse than we've seen in Los Angeles".

Paid link but this is where the quote is from (and Apple News - WSJ):

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/los-angeles-firefighters-in-race-against-time-as-death-toll-rises-422cffa5

https://apple.news/AHqsrujPtTF6DHMrWEFcaEg

All-in-all, some of these fires are domestic terrorist acts (plus possible sabotage and incitement by news outlets and government agencies) and, furthermore, intentional which should be prosecuted to the fullest consequence allowed by American law.

What is worse, they released the article knowing that over 20 arson suspects have been detained and some have been charged - so much for protecting the public from criminals.

Отредактировано Phénomènes Mystiques; 11 янв в 5:27

Immortalis 11 янв в 5:13

Anything that happened and happens in Gaza is on Hamas.
First for launching their attack on civilians, then for refusing time and again to free the hostages and surrender those responsible for October 7.

More people have been born in Gaza than those that were killed.
Israel has complete air superiority and can easily launch artillery strikes from over the border.
Instead they’re sending their soldiers in on the ground, and risking their lives precisely to minimise civilian casualties
If they wanted to commit a genocide they would have.

But yes, apart from that, a war and a wildfire are different scenarios

sleeps 11 янв в 5:23

actually, how did people come out with that? or did you bring that up?

✡︎sprut✡(they/them)✡.il 11 янв в 5:28

All I'm saying.

Israel turned a desert into paradise.

LA turned a desert into a hellish inferno.

Riddley Walker 11 янв в 6:11

Gaza is in much better condition than LA, and generally has better quality of life. Plus a lot more parking spaces.

apathy 11 янв в 6:13

Natural, if you ignore its a man-made catastrophe due to the left-leaning green parties mismanaging woodland and water supplies just like they did with the Australian bushfires.

Princess Luna 11 янв в 6:16

Автор сообщения: sleeps
actually, how did people come out with that? or did you bring that up?

OP might have made that up since they dont provide any sources

Dracoco OwO 11 янв в 6:17

The real question is how any one came to the conclusion it was a good idea to compare the 2? These peoples at Los Angeles really want to play victim when they voted for that ♥♥♥♥ in essence.

Duck Twacy 11 янв в 6:19

Автор сообщения: stingylettuce
I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tired of people making these comparisons. Los Angeles is experiencing a natural disaster, Gaza is experiencing a genocide. The damage in Gaza is incomparably worse and 100% intentional. I don't understand why people think it's okay to derail the topic and make these people feel like they aren't victims. In general, I don't like how much this catastrophe has been associated with the wrong political issues.

Gaza is not experiencing genocide. It's experiencing the repercussions of war and letting armed gang run amuck and attacking Israel since its founding.

I've not seen nor heard anyone make a comparison between the fires in Los Angeles county and Israel's war against Hamas. Where did you see that?

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stingylettuce 11 янв в 7:50

Автор сообщения: Mad Scientist
I have not seen anyone make such comparisons. At the most I've seen a well known OT divisive account compare it to 9/11 probably just to try trolling reactions out of people.

Although a few people were caught/recorded setting some of the LA fires, so arson is definitely intentional.

I should've added some context. I was referring to YouTube comment sections, this video from Al Jazeera is a perfect example.

https://youtu.be/CVtz4w6r7nM?si=gJKGfAxr9sLafrOM

These comments aren't evenly distributed, sometimes you won't see any comments about Gaza, sometimes you won't see anything else. I have no reason to believe that they haven't appeared on other social networks.

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