Disproportional murders by race

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

The black population, while minority in the US, is still most target for murder:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251877/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity-and-gender/

And crimes against the black population are often omitted or not reported, which unblances even more the statistics.

Perhaps in this century the national focus should be on ending discrimination and supremacist (ultranationalism, racism, etc) instead of being the second largest Economy and strongest military.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Charles:

Does your hate for America stem from jealousy?

I live in America, and I do not hate it.
Does your need to attack me and not say something constructive stem from shallowness?

[Immortalis]

First of all, innacurate data being innacurate prevents drawing any conclusion beside the clickbait title.
From your own source:
National crime data in the United States is based off the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s new crime reporting system, which requires law enforcement agencies to self-report their data in detail. Due to the recent implementation of this system, less crime data has been reported, with some states such as Delaware and Pennsylvania declining to report any data to the FBI at all in the last few years, suggesting that the Bureau's data may not fully reflect accurate information on crime in the United States.

and

Due to the FBI's transition to a new crime reporting system, not all law enforcement agencies submitted crime data to the FBI for 2023. As a result, figures may not accurately reflect the total number of crimes.

But since you want to play this with the statistics of the FBI, fine, let's play.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s
If we look at violent crimes (specifically at murders), the last year we really got data from is 2019 and so, if we look at crimes commited by race we get the following (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls):

Out of 2,906 African Americans being murdered, 2,574 have been killed by other African Americans, with just 246 being killed by Whites.
Oh, look. Wild claim debunked completely.

Yes, Blacks are killed at a disproportionally higher rates than whites in the country.
But they are by and large killed by other Black people; it's not racism and those are not murders commited by white supremacists.

In fact, if we look at the murder rate among Blacks and compare it to the murder rates among Whites, we quickly understand what the problem is - unless of course we're fully dedicated to ignoring any data that punches a hole in our fight against non-existing racism.
https://crimeresearch.org/2023/11/violent-crime-rates-by-race/

[Gnome Truther]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Immortalis:

First of all, innacurate data being innacurate prevents drawing any conclusion beside the clickbait title.
From your own source:
National crime data in the United States is based off the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s new crime reporting system, which requires law enforcement agencies to self-report their data in detail. Due to the recent implementation of this system, less crime data has been reported, with some states such as Delaware and Pennsylvania declining to report any data to the FBI at all in the last few years, suggesting that the Bureau's data may not fully reflect accurate information on crime in the United States.

and

Due to the FBI's transition to a new crime reporting system, not all law enforcement agencies submitted crime data to the FBI for 2023. As a result, figures may not accurately reflect the total number of crimes.

But since you want to play this with the statistics of the FBI, fine, let's play.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s
If we look at violent crimes (specifically at murders), the last year we really got data from is 2019 and so, if we look at crimes commited by race we get the following (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls):

Out of 2,906 African Americans being murdered, 2,574 have been killed by other African Americans, with just 246 being killed by Whites.
Oh, look. Wild claim debunked completely.

Yes, Blacks are killed at a disproportionally higher rates than whites in the country.
But they are by and large killed by other Black people; it's not racism and those are not murders commited by white supremacists.

In fact, if we look at the murder rate among Blacks and compare it to the murder rates among Whites, we quickly understand what the problem is - unless of course we're fully dedicated to ignoring any data that punches a hole in our fight against non-existing racism.
https://crimeresearch.org/2023/11/violent-crime-rates-by-race/

This was debunked by Dr. Fauci, chuddy.
The cause of black people killing black people is white supremacy, period.

[Ulfrinn]

OP is either intentionally omitting key information to troll people, or is about as poorly educated on the subject as a person could possibly be.

[Ulfrinn]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Oprindeligt skrevet af ghost:

That makes absolutely no sense. Maybe it's all just blacks shooting each other. This is exactly what wokism is, and the fact that you deny it is just more proof. It means you are completely unaware of your bias.

Seriously, you come across very lame when you lable everything as "woke" and use words like "wokeism". You are speaking from within a thick shell.

Even if "maybe it's all just blacks shooting each other", isn't that a scary scenario? Isn't it problematic? Suppose for a second that it is what you said. Society has got to understand and act on the reasons on why that is happening.

You seriously see that disproportional amount of murders and think "this is fine"?

You seem to think it's fine. Because you intentionally omitted key facts in order to obfuscate the issue to try to start an argument based on the allegations you attempted to make in the opening post. Case in point, you claim it's "discrimination." HOW is it discrimination?

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Immortalis:

But since you want to play this with the statistics of the FBI, fine, let's play.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s
If we look at violent crimes (specifically at murders), the last year we really got data from is 2019 and so, if we look at crimes commited by race we get the following (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls):

Out of 2,906 African Americans being murdered, 2,574 have been killed by other African Americans, with just 246 being killed by Whites.
Oh, look. Wild claim debunked completely.

Yes, Blacks are killed at a disproportionally higher rates than whites in the country.
But they are by and large killed by other Black people; it's not racism and those are not murders commited by white supremacists.

...
https://crimeresearch.org/2023/11/violent-crime-rates-by-race/

You also seem to eager to spew hatred and unwilling to reason.

I made no such "wild claim" that you strangely jumped to "debunk".

The fact that the black population is marginalized and left to die is one facet of racism.

You look at those numbers and your first impulse is to find a way to say "its now whites doing it!!" ??

Those numbers show a serious problem. Its not okay in any way.

Also, the repetitive need to point out that by certain statistics the Black population commits more crimes (again, petty crimes by the white populations are pardoned much more often, while minor infractions by black population is more often registrated) is racism!!!

You're just stating "criminals are more likely to be black", while that does not address the issue at hand.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

You seem to think it's fine. Because you intentionally omitted key facts in order to obfuscate the issue to try to start an argument based on the allegations you attempted to make in the opening post. Case in point, you claim it's "discrimination." HOW is it discrimination?

It is discrimination as that population is obviously more vulnerable. The numbers are screaming! Attention to this matter is needed. Perhaps better programs intended to protect the black population, and social aids to resolve quarrels, instead of criminalizing the population from the get go.

[Ulfrinn]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

You seem to think it's fine. Because you intentionally omitted key facts in order to obfuscate the issue to try to start an argument based on the allegations you attempted to make in the opening post. Case in point, you claim it's "discrimination." HOW is it discrimination?

It is discrimination as that population is obviously more vulnerable. The numbers are screaming! Attention to this matter is needed. Perhaps better programs intended to protect the black population, and social aids to resolve quarrels, instead of criminalizing the population from the get go.

You still failed to answer my question. How is it discrimination? Discrimination suggests a specific act or policy targeting a certain group. Do you have an example of this? Do you have any actual evidence to support discrimination? And evidence of who's discriminating?

[Immortalis]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Immortalis:

But since you want to play this with the statistics of the FBI, fine, let's play.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s
If we look at violent crimes (specifically at murders), the last year we really got data from is 2019 and so, if we look at crimes commited by race we get the following (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls):

Out of 2,906 African Americans being murdered, 2,574 have been killed by other African Americans, with just 246 being killed by Whites.
Oh, look. Wild claim debunked completely.

Yes, Blacks are killed at a disproportionally higher rates than whites in the country.
But they are by and large killed by other Black people; it's not racism and those are not murders commited by white supremacists.

...
https://crimeresearch.org/2023/11/violent-crime-rates-by-race/

You also seem to eager to spew hatred and unwilling to reason.

I made no such "wild claim" that you strangely jumped to "debunk".

The fact that the black population is marginalized and left to die is one facet of racism.

You look at those numbers and your first impulse is to find a way to say "its now whites doing it!!" ??

Those numbers show a serious problem. Its not okay in any way.

Also, the repetitive need to point out that by certain statistics the Black population commits more crimes (again, petty crimes by the white populations are pardoned much more often, while minor infractions by black population is more often registrated) is racism!!!

You're just stating "criminals are more likely to be black", while that does not address the issue at hand.

Nope, murders commited by white have the exact same chance of being registrated (whatever that means) and punish, just as petty crimes commited by blacks such as white collar crimes have the exact same chance of being pardoned (realistically a very low chance, what happens is they don't get thrown in the same prison as violent offenders).

And yes, the Black population commits more crimes. It's not racism, it's data.
You claimed that the black population is the most targeted in the USA and that "the national focus should be on ending discrimination and supremacist (ultranationalism, racism, etc)".
I clearly showed, using the same exact data you relied upon to make your absurd claim, that discrimination, ultranationalism and racism all have absolutely nothing to do with those results because the vast majority of crimes against Blacks are commited by other Blacks; disparaging the White population and claiming racism isn't going to fix the problem because it's not a racial problem but a cultural one.

If the USA had a racism problem you'd see all Blacks (or even just a majority) being precluded access to certain jobs, or certain rights. Instead you have Blacks being lawyers, doctors, athletes, teachers, politicians and even presidents.
At the same time, White people living in the wrong area and going out with the wrong crews have exactly the same chance of Blacks in similar circumstances of ending up in jails.


But hey, since you seem to be so focused on racial problems and the need to resolve them, perhaps you could take a look at the Uyghurs and the racism and human rights violation that your own handlers in Peking are committing against them, including but not limited to: In addition to mass detention, government policies have included forced labor and factory work, suppression of Uyghur religious practices, political indoctrination, forced sterilization, forced contraception, and forced abortion.

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[Pocahawtness]

A meaningless statistic when presented by itself. It only begs the question "why", and many people seem to be jumping to conclusions as to why, without any further information to do so.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pocahawtness:

A meaningless statistic when presented by itself. It only begs the question "why", and many people seem to be jumping to conclusions as to why, without any further information to do so.

not meaningless: something is terribly wrong!
The question "why" is befitting here. It should be asked by the government and society as a whole.
I believe dismissing the issue is a major part of the issue: a population abandoned and stigmatized.