Windows sucks as a desktop operating system, especially for home users

[april ♥ (she/her)]

I don't think we have reached "the year of the Windows desktop" because quite honestly, outside of corporate use Windows absolutely sucks for desktop usage and has been inferior to the alternatives for 20+ years now. It's sad that almost every computer is preinstalled with it, because GNU/Linux and macOS are simply better in most ways and have been for a long time.

It's insecure, doesn't have a very good package management system, has high system requirements and poor support for older hardware, a poorly designed GUI, makes no attempt to be POSIX compliant, and even more issues I won't go into for brevity's sake. Now with Windows adding more and more anti-features to their operating system, we are seeing it go from bad (like in the days of Windows Vista and Windows 7) to worse (Windows 11 or the dreaded Windows 12).

Windows is only really better for corporate use and niche applications, as corporations like to stick to software for a very long time and professionals are often given no alternative because software isn't developed for another platform. while GNU/Linux and macOS tend to not be as stringent when it comes to supporting legacy software. For a while, Windows was also better for gaming but the gap has closed significantly between Windows and GNU/Linux to the point where the marginally more amount of games you can play on WIndows doesn't really make up for the rest of the operating system sucking so bad.

Windows users often have to spend more time for a less usable system than those who run an easy to use GNU/Linux distro or macOS does. I'm not saying that GNU/Linux, macOS, ect are without their flaws themselves but overall they are better desktop operating systems than Windows is.

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I'm employed/happy/CIS/neurotypical and these 4 things make me incompatible with linux

[Skkooomer Lord]

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Gonna be honest here most linux users overestimate the avrage users abillity to use a computer at company i work for we tried linux and yeah my coworkers bricked the systems trying to fix something linux is great for ppl who have some experiance in coding and for servers but for avrage joe sadly no

Oh lordy, you bring in a new operating system not based upon what they already know and you wonder why they can't use it as is?


Your logic is flawed, likely made up.

[lailaamell]

Originally posted by cool angel jazz-lover Chicago:

I'm employed/happy/CIS/neurotypical and these 4 things make me incompatible with linux

Dont need to be neurodivergant to use it linux is open source anyone can make a distro if they know how to but its also sorta what holds it back the sheer amounth of linux distros will likely overwhelm alot of people

[lailaamell]

Originally posted by Skkooomer Lord:

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Gonna be honest here most linux users overestimate the avrage users abillity to use a computer at company i work for we tried linux and yeah my coworkers bricked the systems trying to fix something linux is great for ppl who have some experiance in coding and for servers but for avrage joe sadly no

Oh lordy, you bring in a new operating system not based upon what they already know and you wonder why they can't use it as is?


Your logic is flawed, likely made up.

Not really most of them still calls over the monitor not turning pc on like they are the avrage user at best they know how to use the browser and email

[Skkooomer Lord]

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Originally posted by cool angel jazz-lover Chicago:

I'm employed/happy/CIS/neurotypical and these 4 things make me incompatible with linux

Dont need to be neurodivergant to use it linux is open source anyone can make a distro if they know how to but its also sorta what holds it back the sheer amounth of linux distros will likely overwhelm alot of people

That is not what holds it back, the fact is none of them can agree to creating one centralized operating system is why it's trash for the general consumer, once they get it semi working, they focus on a different distro, if they all came together and actually used their minds, they could create something great, but as typical the types are anti everything, a self defeating prophecy.

And usually the only sentiment left is that it's used in everything, yeah well Windows users are not trying to use an ATM or a server in general.

[Skkooomer Lord]

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Originally posted by Skkooomer Lord:

Oh lordy, you bring in a new operating system not based upon what they already know and you wonder why they can't use it as is?


Your logic is flawed, likely made up.

Not really most of them still calls over the monitor not turning pc on like they are the avrage user at best they know how to use the browser and email

If it is that easy to brick using Email and Web browsing, is it even a good idea?

[lailaamell]

Originally posted by Skkooomer Lord:

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Dont need to be neurodivergant to use it linux is open source anyone can make a distro if they know how to but its also sorta what holds it back the sheer amounth of linux distros will likely overwhelm alot of people

That is not what holds it back, the fact is none of them can agree to creating one centralized operating system is why it's trash for the general consumer, once they get it semi working, they focus on a different distro, if they all came together and actually used their minds, they could create something great, but as typical the types are anti everything, a self defeating prophecy.

And usually the only sentiment left is that it's used in everything, yeah well Windows users are not trying to use an ATM or a server in general.

Windows is bad most of the time only way to get rid of it is for someone ban preinstalled os on pcs and laptops but make a centrilised linux would kill the idea of linux and make it just as bad as windows what i meant is there is just so many version and alot of favoritism for that or other distros make centralised version would just end up turning it to windows

[Skkooomer Lord]

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Originally posted by Skkooomer Lord:

That is not what holds it back, the fact is none of them can agree to creating one centralized operating system is why it's trash for the general consumer, once they get it semi working, they focus on a different distro, if they all came together and actually used their minds, they could create something great, but as typical the types are anti everything, a self defeating prophecy.

And usually the only sentiment left is that it's used in everything, yeah well Windows users are not trying to use an ATM or a server in general.

Windows is bad most of the time only way to get rid of it is for someone ban preinstalled os on pcs and laptops but make a centrilised linux would kill the idea of linux

Windows is bad for what?

You have no consensus other than following a trend.

Linux is an idea, yeah exactly, Windows is practical for our uses.

[april ♥ (she/her)]

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Gonna be honest here most linux users overestimate the avrage users abillity to use a computer at company i work for we tried linux and yeah my coworkers bricked the systems trying to fix something linux is great for ppl who have some experiance in coding and for servers but for avrage joe sadly no

If that is a problem, give them an immutable/atomic distro like Fedora Silverblue. Has all the advantages of something like ChromeOS or Windows S while having much fewer of the drawbacks.

It comes with the easiest graphical user interface of any desktop operating system (GNOME), and with the base system being read only it is almost indestructible and is basically 100% idiot proof. It is superior in pretty much every way compared to ChromeOS or Windows S.

[lailaamell]

Originally posted by Skkooomer Lord:

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Windows is bad most of the time only way to get rid of it is for someone ban preinstalled os on pcs and laptops but make a centrilised linux would kill the idea of linux

Windows is bad for what?

You have no consensus other than following a trend.

Linux is an idea, yeah exactly, Windows is practical for our uses.

Windows downsides is it lacks progress upgrades look the same its mostly designed for ease of use but lacks anything unique with it. As its slowly look more and more like a apple os and only real reason its used is for most pcs has it preinstalled

[Skkooomer Lord]

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Originally posted by Skkooomer Lord:

Windows is bad for what?

You have no consensus other than following a trend.

Linux is an idea, yeah exactly, Windows is practical for our uses.

Windows downsides is it lacks progress upgrades look the same its mostly designed for ease of use but lacks anything unique with it. As its slowly look more and more like a apple os and only real reason its used is for most pcs has it preinstalled

Right so no issues then, aesthetics, I called you out on following trends, you follow trends, that's OK, don't create a thread trashing an O/S with stuff that does not align with who you really are, it makes you seem stupid.

It's good to be yourself.

[Chaosolous]

Windows is functional. Microsoft sucks big time. Glad I switched to Linux. Never going back.

[salva早晨享用的咖啡]

Originally posted by libadwaita (she/her):

I don't think we have reached "the year of the Windows desktop" because quite honestly, outside of corporate use Windows absolutely sucks for desktop usage and has been inferior to the alternatives for 20+ years now. It's sad that almost every computer is preinstalled with it, because GNU/Linux and macOS are simply better in most ways and have been for a long time.

It's insecure, doesn't have a very good package management system, has high system requirements and poor support for older hardware, a poorly designed GUI, makes no attempt to be POSIX compliant, and even more issues I won't go into for brevity's sake. Now with Windows adding more and more anti-features to their operating system, we are seeing it go from bad (like in the days of Windows Vista and Windows 7) to worse (Windows 11 or the dreaded Windows 12).

Windows is only really better for corporate use and niche applications, as corporations like to stick to software for a very long time and professionals are often given no alternative because software isn't developed for another platform. while GNU/Linux and macOS tend to not be as stringent when it comes to supporting legacy software. For a while, Windows was also better for gaming but the gap has closed significantly between Windows and GNU/Linux to the point where the marginally more amount of games you can play on WIndows doesn't really make up for the rest of the operating system sucking so bad.

Windows users often have to spend more time for a less usable system than those who run an easy to use GNU/Linux distro or macOS does. I'm not saying that GNU/Linux, macOS, ect are without their flaws themselves but overall they are better desktop operating systems than Windows is.

lack of posix compliance = difficult make software do anything with file system
window file directory make no sense.
they have something similar package manager = window store. but no moderation, full of scam and virus
OS is bloat with telemetry, advertisement, ai, and spy software. make performance slow

windows suck windows suck windows suck. windows declining since windows xp

[Skkooomer Lord]

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

Originally posted by libadwaita (she/her):

I don't think we have reached "the year of the Windows desktop" because quite honestly, outside of corporate use Windows absolutely sucks for desktop usage and has been inferior to the alternatives for 20+ years now. It's sad that almost every computer is preinstalled with it, because GNU/Linux and macOS are simply better in most ways and have been for a long time.

It's insecure, doesn't have a very good package management system, has high system requirements and poor support for older hardware, a poorly designed GUI, makes no attempt to be POSIX compliant, and even more issues I won't go into for brevity's sake. Now with Windows adding more and more anti-features to their operating system, we are seeing it go from bad (like in the days of Windows Vista and Windows 7) to worse (Windows 11 or the dreaded Windows 12).

Windows is only really better for corporate use and niche applications, as corporations like to stick to software for a very long time and professionals are often given no alternative because software isn't developed for another platform. while GNU/Linux and macOS tend to not be as stringent when it comes to supporting legacy software. For a while, Windows was also better for gaming but the gap has closed significantly between Windows and GNU/Linux to the point where the marginally more amount of games you can play on WIndows doesn't really make up for the rest of the operating system sucking so bad.

Windows users often have to spend more time for a less usable system than those who run an easy to use GNU/Linux distro or macOS does. I'm not saying that GNU/Linux, macOS, ect are without their flaws themselves but overall they are better desktop operating systems than Windows is.

lack of posix compliance = difficult develop anything w/ file system
they have something similar package manager = window store. but no moderation, full of scam and virus
OS is bloat with telemetry, ai, and spy software. also make performance slow

windows suck windows suck windows suck

If you are going to show an argument, show both sides.

In general people on Linux distros are no safer than Windows users.

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/03/backdoor-found-in-widely-used-linux-utility-breaks-encrypted-ssh-connections/

[salva早晨享用的咖啡]

Originally posted by Skkooomer Lord:

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

lack of posix compliance = difficult develop anything w/ file system
they have something similar package manager = window store. but no moderation, full of scam and virus
OS is bloat with telemetry, ai, and spy software. also make performance slow

windows suck windows suck windows suck

If you are going to show an argument, show both sides.

In general people on Linux distros are no safer than Windows users.

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/03/backdoor-found-in-widely-used-linux-utility-breaks-encrypted-ssh-connections/

immediately discovered and patched. compare to windows user victim of worm ransomware rootkits and worse for years because MS don't fix cia backdoors

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petya_(malware_family)
etc