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LeeingLow Dec 11, 2024 @ 1:06am

Any goths here?

Hi yall. So recently decided to try out and join the “goth” subculture and try to find if I fit into it. I’ve admired and enjoyed the style people of such culture show off and I myself have been complementing if I do wanna try and be part of it. Does anyone here that identifies themselves as “goth” have any recommendations on graphic novels, animes and comics (im a geek) that are essential for newcomers? Im leaning more into “goth” subculture but I also like punk rock taste as well but more of a goth aesthetics

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↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect Dec 11, 2024 @ 1:10am

I thought goth went out in the early 2000's as you don't hear about it much any more at least in my neck of the woods.

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JD Dec 11, 2024 @ 1:19am

Not to seem rude, but the last goth I saw was in 2001.

Daenoxiis Dec 11, 2024 @ 1:22am

So the first things you're gonna get met with are a lot of:

- Gatekeeping and Elitism.
- Some really difficult homogenization to try to pull apart.
- And an absolute metric sh!tload of judgment.

Once you've ran THAT triathlon, eventually you'll realize that it's not an aesthetic, it's not, even a community, really, nor can I even rightfully call it an artistic formality due to the varieties therein.
It's not a lifestyle, I mean it can be to some people, just as all of these things can, but I mean, fv<kdamn that'd be expensive to keep up with. It's a mental state, a frame of mind and understanding.

I was an active musician for 17 years. It sort of, kind of just gravitated to me on its own.
I actually have a tendency to forget entirely that its even the slightest subcultural, until someone points out that it is. Normal for the spider, chaos for the fly and all that jazz.

bad_fur_day1 Dec 11, 2024 @ 1:26am

It turned into wimpier versions Emo's, and then I don't know what after that.

Tonepoet Dec 11, 2024 @ 1:37am

When it comes to cliques you have to pick one: Goth or geek. Not both. Also it's too late to be goth: The emo. kids cannibalized all of the goths before ending themselves.

Vampire Princess Miyu (1988 version) and Witch Hunter Robin might interest you though. Maybe Hell Girl?

Kinda hard with anime 'cause I don't think goth is as much of a thing in Japan, at least not in the way its considered here. There's Elegant Gothic Lolita stuff, which is basically Victorian inspired dress and may have some amount of overlap, but that seems quite different from the Western conception.

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Lime Dec 11, 2024 @ 1:39am

Originally posted by Daenoxiis:
Normal for the spider, chaos for the fly

That's beautiful.

Daenoxiis Dec 11, 2024 @ 1:59am

Originally posted by Lime:
Originally posted by Daenoxiis:
Normal for the spider, chaos for the fly
That's beautiful.

Morticia Addams.
In full:
"Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider, is chaos for the fly."
It's a very well known classical line in the subculture. Probably because it's entirely true, and also probably because The Addams Family is a comedy.