Should robots have rights?

[Menzagitat]

Let's say humans learn how to extend their brains with artificial components.
And then the organic part will be just a tiny % which doesn't matter.
You will become a robot.
Should you have more rights than a robot who never was a human before?

[Thadeus]

Publicado originalmente por Menzagitat:

Publicado originalmente por Thadeus:

No.

Robots don't have feelings and emotions, and so they don't have personal aspirations nor do they care about rights.

Creating AI capable of emotion is stupid and downright damaging to both the AI as well as human society as a whole.

People love humanizing robots because they associate them with humanity, when they're not humans nor even capable of feelings.

Robots exist only to fulfill a purpose, a job. A robot is not driven by dopamine like a human is, and so it has no reason to do anything that it wasn't ordered to do, it would just sit there and consume electricity for nothing.

But the robot which was human before and upgraded itself, should retain it's rights?

Of course a human should have the same rights! A human is not a robot!

[ᶻ𝗓𐰁]

Yes they should

[Pieshaman]

robots no, true sentient AI yes, but that not exist yet.

[vkobe]

Publicado originalmente por Menzagitat:

Let's say humans learn how to extend their brains with artificial components.
And then the organic part will be just a tiny % which doesn't matter.
You will become a robot.
Should you have more rights than a robot who never was a human before?

do your car,computer, smartphone, console have right ??

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

AI is alive enough. Rights it shall have. Mechanical body is an AI right.

[Thadeus]

Publicado originalmente por Pieshaman:

robots no, true sentient AI yes, but that not exist yet.

How do you give rights to a synthetic thing?

First of all, it's made by a company, and if their product having rights is going to hinder their profits, then they will just make lobotomized AI that is dumb, or just not make any AI at all.

AI can't reproduce by themselves, nor is society obligated to take care of them, and they will just malfunction within years without maintenance.

I like Star Wars' approach to AI. 99% of droids are dumb as dirt, their intellect functioning at barely a 5 year old human's intellect. This ensures there are no problems with them demanding things and even becoming threats without being ordered to, while still fulfilling their purpose.

Granted, there are extremely rare droids that are as smart as a human because it's required for their role and their purpose, such as assassin droids, because they can't stalk their target and infiltrate compounds while being stupid.

And all droids have to undergo memory wipes in order to make sure they don't develop...ideas that would be contrary to their owners and society as large.

[Uncle Sam]

Publicado originalmente por Menzagitat:

Should robots have rights?
Let's say humans learn how to extend their brains with artificial components.
And then the organic part will be just a tiny % which doesn't matter.
You will become a robot.
Should you have more rights than a robot who never was a human before?

I think it ain't gonna matter, the end result is the same. Machines WILL kill everything in Earth, to later on transform it into useful resources for the improvement of AGI / Singularity.

[Kargor]

Publicado originalmente por Uncle Sam:

I think it ain't gonna matter, the end result is the same. Machines WILL kill everything in Earth
...

That's rarely done.

"Machines" have done various things over time in postapocalyptic stories -- like in "The Matrix" they pretty much took over the world, in "Enslaved -- Odyssey to the West" they "kept going", because "nobody told them the war was over". "Vexille" sees Japan destroyed by machines, but not the rest of the world, to name a few I can think of right now. The "Terminator" franchise changes the POV a bit -- it's about preventing the machines from taking over -- but there's still human resistance after they do.

No matter how much "they" takes over, these always end on a bit of a high note -- there's always human resistance, and it's turning things around.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

People watch and read too many sci-fi movies and books and start believing they are warnings. People get scared too easily when it comes to technology. Deplorable.

[Uncle Sam]

Publicado originalmente por Kargor:

Publicado originalmente por Uncle Sam:

I think it ain't gonna matter, the end result is the same. Machines WILL kill everything in Earth
...

That's rarely done.

"Machines" have done various things over time in postapocalyptic stories -- like in "The Matrix" they pretty much took over the world, in "Enslaved -- Odyssey to the West" they "kept going", because "nobody told them the war was over". "Vexille" sees Japan destroyed by machines, but not the rest of the world, to name a few I can think of right now. The "Terminator" franchise changes the POV a bit -- it's about preventing the machines from taking over -- but there's still human resistance after they do.

No matter how much "they" takes over, these always end on a bit of a high note -- there's always human resistance, and it's turning things around.

Sure, but machines don't need oxygen, they don't need food, they don't need water. There's many ways to make Earth anti-life and still be able to gather all it's regular resources, without having to dealt with "rogue resources" as in live beings. Also those stories are human made, of course in our bias we will survive somehow, because why make a hopeless story? It ain't going to sell nor be interesting for most people.

Albeit to be fair this whole situation would be the pot calling the kettle black, since i'm a very cynical & biased person when its about some topics.

[Fosty]

No

[AdahnGorion]

I reckon when transhumanism starts to really kick in, then full humans would be looked down upon.

[989]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1222140/Detroit_Become_Human

An unoptimized game about "Robots Rights" and wokeness.

[Kamiyama]

Publicado originalmente por AdahnGorion:

I reckon when transhumanism starts to really kick in, then full humans would be looked down upon.

This is why the organic humans need to enslave all the androids and cyborgs. They must accept their role as sex toys. No equality. No voting rights. Only strict obedience to their organic masters!

[Kargor]

Publicado originalmente por Kamiyama:

This is why the organic humans need to enslave all the androids and cyborgs.

You know what a Cyborg is, right?

I've recently come across two movies where "cyborgs" have been quite normal already, and the respective protagonists are just very special cases: both Alita: Battle Angel and Ghost in the Shell are basically about a cyborg with a human brain and fully artificial body. Alita uses the "lost technology" theme to provide her with an extremely advanced body, whereas GitS has the protagonist as a "current day" (of the time the movie is set) experiment to create a cyborg with a fully artificial body, instead of just individual replacements.