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tariffs
we don't even have a word for it in my language
you know why?
it is just a tax imposed by a government.
americans hate taxes they always say.
yet they go nuts if you just jiggle a bit with words and call it a tariff. then they suddenly love it.
americans are really dumb I can't help to come to another conclusion than that they are dumb to the level of extreme.
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orange american politician man say funny buzz word
internet guy like buzz word, hate guy who do not like buzz word because him other tribe
you also hate buzz word and guy from other tribe?
yes? based lol.
Originally posted by punished salamander:
orange american politician man say funny buzz word
internet guy like buzz word, hate guy who do not like buzz word because him other tribe
you also hate buzz word and guy from other tribe?
yes? based lol.

maybe if you could make an actual sentence I would understand half of what you tried to say.
Originally posted by Pieshaman:
Originally posted by punished salamander:
orange american politician man say funny buzz word
internet guy like buzz word, hate guy who do not like buzz word because him other tribe
you also hate buzz word and guy from other tribe?
yes? based lol.

maybe if you could make an actual sentence I would understand half of what you tried to say.

trump supporters like buzz words. (tariffs)
they listen to gospel of internet manosphere gurus and trump. and hate liberals/lefts because of it.
one right winger to another: "do you also hate "(nsert buzzword like woke or tariffs) and liberals?"
"yes? based lol".
Last edited by salamander; Mar 7 @ 11:02pm
one time the uk said poland should pay a tax on the war assistance it was giving, sometime in the middle ages.

poland shipped them their finest polka dots in response. they added a note, too: "textiles hold value, you know?"

the king had this changed to "textiles have value, do you not know?" despite it being clearly written in plain english, "textilleS hatH valU S'Noth Eid'el'HEIM ?" including one polka dot textile piece where the english translation and the polish version and the common english and high envlish and comon translation "Textiles HOLD VALUE, You Know?" were both carved into the cloth with an irregularly serrated knife. the specific coloration of this textile piece just so happened to match English reprints of the Roesetta Stone translation, including the profanity typically left out of translations of the Roestta Stone.

go look it up; the way in which the stone itself mentioned its own censorship is relatively well recognized. as well as english publishing deciding to decry "posh" polish translation. as well as their translation efforts, much to the frustration of most of extant english intelligencience at the time.
Last edited by permanent name; Mar 7 @ 11:31pm
Originally posted by punished salamander:
Originally posted by Pieshaman:

maybe if you could make an actual sentence I would understand half of what you tried to say.

trump supporters like buzz words.
they listen to gospel of internet manosphere gurus. and hate liberals/lefts because of it.
one right winger to another: "do you also hate "(nsert buzzword like woke) and liberals?"
"yes? based lol".

buzzword, it a word we don't have and we like to keep it that way.
a buzzword is just like a tariff? a word to disguise what it actually is.
Last edited by Pieshaman; Mar 7 @ 11:05pm
Originally posted by Pieshaman:
Originally posted by punished salamander:

trump supporters like buzz words.
they listen to gospel of internet manosphere gurus. and hate liberals/lefts because of it.
one right winger to another: "do you also hate "(nsert buzzword like woke) and liberals?"
"yes? based lol".

buzzword, it a word we don't have and we like to keep it that way.
a buzzword is just like a tariff? a word to disguise what it actually is.

so buzzwords are destructive, like a chainsaw or a wasp.

or "a man who has lit a bee hive on fire an thrown'ed it upon the Commonwealth."
Last edited by permanent name; Mar 7 @ 11:28pm
The funny thing is, the people who are complaining about tariffs being imposed on foreign goods are the same people who have been proposing to increase corporate and business tax, to make the rich pay their fair share and this sort of drivel.

So, even setting aside the argument that Trump is imposing tariffs on countries that have enjoyed free trade with the USA while imposing tariffs of their own for years if not decades on USA made product, can you provide a single reason why we should be in favour of a tax that will hit across the board, affecting every single product (since corporations would just pass the burden on the consumer) instead of tariffs being imposed just on foreign products?
Originally posted by Immortalis:
to make the rich pay their fair share and this sort of drivel.

can you explain this part in more detail, please?
Originally posted by Immortalis:
The funny thing is, the people who are complaining about tariffs being imposed on foreign goods are the same people who have been proposing to increase corporate and business tax, to make the rich pay their fair share and this sort of drivel.

So, even setting aside the argument that Trump is imposing tariffs on countries that have enjoyed free trade with the USA while imposing tariffs of their own for years if not decades on USA made product, can you provide a single reason why we should be in favour of a tax that will hit across the board, affecting every single product (since corporations would just pass the burden on the consumer) instead of tariffs being imposed just on foreign products?

The US is a slush fund for European investment; as assuredly as the Dutch blnd the German eye, so too will the English seed amemoritize the Foreign commonwealth; and, aye, if thoust draw it from mine tongue, I refer to the Timber of a Continent rend'red Defenseless; not by the grace of Conquest ann'd, its actuality rendered commonplace as unto a milkmaid servicing a Lord; and, unto this milk aide servicing not unton the lords, but the Lord himself, a service so wonton as to seed unto its busom the woe, the untide, the severance offst thou whost dost disobey; aye. That is the fund upon which thous't brow the milk bid; un drank forthwith lay sodden. For Thou see, isn't its wastance, that which lay sodden before thy very eyes as peasnt-borne. But aye, bethwich thy lay, thy severance, thy birhtright, thy failing, thy actualite'.

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Last edited by permanent name; Mar 8 @ 12:16am
Originally posted by punished salamander:
Originally posted by Immortalis:
to make the rich pay their fair share and this sort of drivel.

can you explain this part in more detail, please?

The premise of any argument against tariffs is that they aren’t being paid by the foreign nation but by US businesses, who then push the burden of the tariff onto the final consumer. Therefore the tariffs is really a tax on product.

That being the premise, what would lead anyone to believe that increasing taxes on corporations and the rich individual owning those corporations wouldn’t just lead to them increasing the prices of the products they are selling, ultimately passing the burden of the tax onto the final consumer?
Devious Mar 8 @ 12:09am 
Originally posted by Immortalis:
So, even setting aside the argument that Trump is imposing tariffs on countries that have enjoyed free trade with the USA while imposing tariffs of their own for years if not decades on USA made product

Let's just get this fib out of the way. Most countries do have tariffs to protect key domestic industries, and the US was no exception even before 2016. So no, other countries didn't enjoy free trade while the US was being screwed over. The American-backed world economic order was free trade across the board, with several asterisks.

Originally posted by Immortalis:
can you provide a single reason why we should be in favour of a tax that will hit across the board, affecting every single product (since corporations would just pass the burden on the consumer) instead of tariffs being imposed just on foreign products?

Off the top of my head, I can provide two.

First, tariffs are in effect a regressive tax. Whereas you can control the distribution of an income tax, tariffs disproportionately affect poorer people. Whether you make 30k or 500k a year, the amount you pay on any product remain the same. This is also true of a sales tax, which would be a problem if you imposed a +25% sales tax on all products.

Second, tariffs cause tremendous disruption to the economy since they modify people's behavior more than other taxes. Supply chains collapse, businesses go bankrupt, people spend elsewhere or stop spending altogether...and since they harm both your country and those of your partners, you can expect retaliatory tariffs that will further disrupt your economy.

With few exceptions, sweeping tariffs are almost always a portent of economic disaster.
Originally posted by Immortalis:
increasing taxes on corporations and the rich individual owning those corporations wouldn’t just lead to them increasing the prices of the products they are selling, ultimately passing the burden of the tax onto the final consumer?

how do we avoid this part? taxing the rich their fair shares i think, is...fair. and i also think they do not pay nearly as much as they should. in every country across the planet.

the issue with tariffs...and most issues in our world, can be traced back to the mega wealthy. how can we be avoiding things like passing the burden to the consumers while also increasing taxation of the rich?
Originally posted by Pieshaman:
americans are really dumb I can't help to come to another conclusion than that they are dumb to the level of extreme.

Say that to an American in their face. Record it too.
Difference between the USA and the UK. At least last I was in USA some years ago.

In UK the price is on the product and that includes the tax.

In USA the price is on the product and then the consumer has to pay the tax.

Put me off buying things it felt cheap shot.

Like the tip culture the owner is too stingy to pay the employees properly so the consumer has to compensate and increase the owners profit.
Trump could come out with the cure for cancer tomorrow and never-Trumpers would complain he's putting countless scientists out of a job.
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