How bad is bullying across (both middle & high) schools in the USA?

[Cmdr-Graves]

Bullying is universal worldwide, but the subculture around it differs, as in Japan or South Korea it seems to be more psychological rather than physical, even if you stand out from the norm or customs, for instance even you're not Japanese or Korean alongside being mixed race.

That is a factor that can trigger bullying, you'll become bait for the tormentors. Seeking actual support is something they're afraid of as the bullies threaten the victim. Mental health in both nations is horrid as there's no proper network since they are collectivist societies.

Also it does not help to how teachers or adults deal with it, they just tell the victim to ignore them which is just a slap on the wrist. Well... that will be useless when it's escalated to the breaking point to the extent they can't be helped anymore as they've been ignored for so long.

Teachers do not use the right approach, even in front of the entire class indirectly teasing or chastising him or her, there are cases that they are the bullies themselves or an accesssory to what may endorse bullying tactics or behaviors & actions that equate to bullying.

Even if the victim reports it to both parents or the school body itself, most of the time it's brushed off as they don't give a f*ck about it, even at the most severe cases. In both countries, the most common outcome for the victim is that they end up committing s***ide.

If the victim is deceased, when the school is questioned about it, they often say "We're not aware of it." When they were but decide to put it under the rug. Also, the mindset most people have is "Well... we're used to it. There's no point in reporting it when nothing is going to happen".

In both countries most of the tormentors are teenage girls rather than boys, they surround the victim trying to sway them away from anyone who can intervene. The subject matter of bullying in countries like Japan or South Korea is overlooked and brushed aside a lot.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I do not have children, so this matter does not concern me at all.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

From what I gather biggest problem with bullying in US is that nobody gives a damn about it until someone is pushed completely over the edge and shoots bunch of students.
Even then they say oh that`s terrible and it`s business as usual again until next time.

[permanent name]

I found it to be a nearly inescapable aspect of being social, no matter where I lived. the only times it did not happen were when I was asocial.

however I may be an outlier.

in a more general sense, anywhere there is a pecking order there will be differences. and people will bully over anything, even similarities.

[Courier 6]

Originally posted by Phénomènes Mystiques:

I do not have children, so this matter does not concern me at all. :csd2smile:

people also bully white collar and blue collars too

[salva早晨享用的咖啡]

public school in urban america is child abuse

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Originally posted by Courier 6:

Originally posted by Phénomènes Mystiques:

I do not have children, so this matter does not concern me at all.

people also bully white collar and blue collars too

Are we talking about money again?

[permanent name]

Originally posted by salva早晨享用的咖啡:

public school in urban america is child abuse

keeps the gangs off the streets so they don't stab people and get shot by cops.

literally the only concern the nyc public school system has.

[Dwerklesberry]

Its nothing, and its everything.

The average libtard will tell you horror stories about public school, yet they insist everyone has to go and pour endless hate on alternatives like charter, private, or home schools.

Its clear since the anti bullying programs were implemented it just grew more insidious as school yard fights led to female methods of underhanded social destruction.

Remember the premise was always that bullies had low self esteem, when it turned out to be the opposite, and what did the schools impliment at the same time as anti bullying? Self esteem boosting programs.

[the vampire of time and memory]

apparently in the USA they stretch out your underwear and put it over your head or hang you on top of telephone poles

[Rio]

I gave up school bullying once schools added cameras everywhere. And that was many years ago. I can only imagine their is more cameras than ever.

Once I got to high school, the buses had cameras, the halls, etc. There was an in school police officer too.

I saw all that after middle school and went "nope, can't do that anymore, its too risky.

[permanent name]

Originally posted by Violeta:

I gave up school bullying once schools added cameras everywhere. And that was many years ago. I can only imagine their is more cameras than ever.

Once I got to high school, the buses had cameras, the halls, etc. There was an in school police officer too.

I saw all that after middle school and went "nope, can't do that anymore, its too risky.

well the point of that is so that you end up like redacted, unable to hold a conversation without worrying about the power dynamic because of repeated bullying attempts that revolved around gaslighting and the average person being unable to read intentions.

in essence society doesn't believe in or understand psychological violence, so ending the physical violence ends the problem.

thus the camera-based transition strategy, to shift from visible violence to invisible psychological violence and abuse of circumstantial evidence.

[steven1mac]

In the US teachers have a vested interest in not getting involved in student affairs, there are to many sue happy parents for one thing. They are required by law to report sexual abuse if a kid brings it up, but emotional abuse by other students there is little they can do about it. In the end bullies will always be a thing.

[Rio]

Sometimes people say that without bullying, theres no one to tell people with horrible ideas, that their ideas are terrible in a way they understand.

And they'll go on to say, thats why today society caves in to any hardship. They never had to fight anyone.

Course, theres been a lot of times people were bullied and things ended really badly, sometimes for a lot of people.

[the vampire of time and memory]

Originally posted by steven1mac:

In the US teachers have a vested interest in not getting involved in student affairs, there are to many sue happy parents for one thing. They are required by law to report sexual abuse if a kid brings it up, but emotional abuse by other students there is little they can do about it. In the end bullies will always be a thing.

even if their hands weren't tied, there's little a teacher can do in preventing bullying, it's something that has to be solved between the students themselves, authority figures getting involved usually only intensifies the bullying when they're not around

[permanent name]

alright; the only person with the authority to give a ♥♥♥♥ is god.

you can see hitting, can you see ♥♥♥♥ talking? no.

the civil authority is held back by god's needs, preventing them from ever giving a ♥♥♥♥ about what happens to students.

thus why they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ zoos. the last free humans, totally ignorant. enjoy.