North Korea leaders weren't even North Korean?

[apathy]

I've heard a lot of people going around saying that Kim Il Sung was a fake, and the real Kim Il Sung was a guerrilla solider who was born in 1901 and died an ignoble death fighting in 1937.

They're saying everything about his story, up until he was put in power by Stalin, is a complete fabrication. I always thought them a suspicious secretive lot for a country so proud of their "pureblood" heritage and ancestry.

What do you think, were they foreigners put in charge by the Russians or someone else?

[steven1mac]

I is unlikely but possible, there are a lot of ethnic Koreans that are Russian, considering the history of Russian Expansion in the far east. Of course the same can be said about Koreans in China as well.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

Rocketmans blood is pure rocketfuel

[Sherasonni]

I remember watching an old Korean War documentary. In this documentary, the Korean witnesses said that the real Kim Il-sung was much older. They also heard that the real Kim Il-sung got killed years before the founding of North Korea. The son of the first leader of NK (Kim Jong-il) was born in Russia. A Japanese cook who got hired by Kim Jong-il wrote a book saying that the current leader of NK was born from Kim Jong-il and Kim Jong-il's second wife. The Japanese cook also wrote that Kim's second wife was a Korean from Japan.

EDIT - I got sleepy and typed "Kim Jong-un" instead of "Kim Jong-il."

[vkobe]

Publicado originalmente por apathy:

I've heard a lot of people going around saying that Kim Il Sung was a fake, and the real Kim Il Sung was a guerrilla solider who was born in 1901 and died an ignoble death fighting in 1937.

They're saying everything about his story, up until he was put in power by Stalin, is a complete fabrication. I always thought them a suspicious secretive lot for a country so proud of their "pureblood" heritage and ancestry.

What do you think, were they foreigners put in charge by the Russians or someone else?

when kim il sung born north korea didnt exist

korea was part of japan empire, so technically he is japanese

[Sherasonni]

Although he predicted the right leader, he predicted wrongly how this leader would rule NK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6McUJ2JkKk


The current leader of NK went to school in Switzerland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZnN_32ONV8

The man in the above video (Kang Myung-do) has his own YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx4HO1eBQJs

And he used to be in a SK tv show of NK defectors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMurzl_wZKI

Later on, Park Yeon-mi joined this show with a different name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH6nUzWfTXU

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

The il in kim il sung stands for ilyich

[Disgruntled Cuttlefish]

She packed my bags last night, pre-flight
Zero hour, 9 a.m.
And I'm gonna be high as a kite by then
I miss the Earth so much, I miss my wife
It's lonely out in space
On such a timeless flight

[Morkonan]

Publicado originalmente por HypersleepyNaputunia:

The il in kim il sung stands for ilyich

Naming conventions in Korean culture are different than those normally found in the West and in English.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/23/order-say-korean-names-naming-system-works-7654228/

A Westerner would say that his last name, or surname, is "Kim."


Ilych can mean "son of" AFAIK. I don't recall the naming conventions there, but do know that Illych <?><sp> could also be a formal name.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

I was actually joking just trying to limk lenin to him