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People in poverty still wanting kids
In my opinion, people in poverty should not birth children if they can’t support them. These children have to carry the burden of their parents financial state. Most of these children end up with no education, and spend most of their time in their day on the street asking for money when these kids should be using this time to study. Yet these people are still selfish enough to birth multiple children while giving them little to no support, putting them in the position to live a low quality life. :steamhappy:

Edit: I am not trying to make kids disappear. I am simply stating my opinion. And that people in povert might want to give thought to their choices to rethink their decision wether to give birth or not. Awareness is key.
Ultima modifica da 1800948134; 16 set 2023, ore 19:12
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Poor people have always been the ones who give birth the most. It is wrong, but this is just how human people are unfortunately. And I think that nobody wants to change that. Poor people are like that and of course they would not want to change since for some reason they are like that.... very rich people don't want them to change because the babies they give birth to will become basically the slaves of the rich people and they want to exploit those slaves... average common people have their own problems to take care of and while most of them will say thatthis is wrong and bad nobody would go out of their way to change anything... and besides what you could do to change this? Trying to make every poor people reasonable enough would be impossible, forcing them to stop would be very difficult anyway and as morally wrong as it is morally wrong that they keep giving birth so much...
Messaggio originale di 16243192608:
people in poverty should not birth children if they can’t support them.
people in povert might want to give thought to their choices to rethink their decision wether to give birth or not.
Basic human right to pro-create.

You basically have no right to say how the children of other people are raised..
unless you are offering some kind of support, you should keep it to yourself.

You can decide how your own children are raised, but not that of others.
Ultima modifica da [N]ebsun; 17 set 2023, ore 1:25
You should force the rich to have more children to match their income then.
Millionaires should have hundreds, and billionaires like musk should have thousands, because they have enough wealth to support them.
Ultima modifica da Goldias; 17 set 2023, ore 1:26
Public schools in the usa free unless the parents pay a school tax which is used to up keep the schools. Also low income families can get free breakfast and lunches for their kids. And from what my brother told me since he is on it says he get around 1 grand in cash a month from the government and 3000 dollars in food stamps since he has 8 kids.
Messaggio originale di Magma Dragoon:
People who don't want children should have their property confiscated and given to people who do, them nobody who wants kids will be impoverished.

Sounds like commie talk to me. Begone with you!
Of course people think children should be born into poverty because.. actually no one has given a good logical reason to why children should be born into poverty. Just emotional dribble and randomly shouting 'eugenics".

I'm sure all the children in adoption centers or those suffering without a meal are more than understanding of their situation because, y'know, their parent's human rights to procreate and all.
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Messaggio originale di Magma Dragoon:
People who don't want children should have their property confiscated and given to people who do, them nobody who wants kids will be impoverished.

Sounds like commie talk to me. Begone with you!
I bet if it applied to them, they wouldn't want that to happen anymore. So long as it effects others not like them then they're fine with it.

Not to mention saying such a thing is just flat out ridiculous on its own in the first place

You don't want kids? All your property are now belong to me. Like what. Try it and you won't be on this planet anymore
Ultima modifica da Foxbyte; 17 set 2023, ore 2:05
"Your kids are starving. Carl's Jr. believes no child should go hungry. You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl's Jr. Carl's Jr... "♥♥♥♥ You, I'm Eating.""
I think youre giving them too much credit assuming they 'want' kids. People do it too much without thinking of the consequences and analysing their own financial and mental state, These same low tier humans then take it out on their kids when the ramifications of their own lack of self restraint becomes apparent
Messaggio originale di HisBangalore:
because, y'know, their parent's human rights to procreate and all.
Not even just human rights... just natural law and nature itself.. no one (no animal, bacteria, plant, fungi, etc) in the world today made the choice to be created / born.
What right has anyone alive today to deny the opportunity for something to be created ?

The fact we are alive, and have a natural instinct to survive and pass on our genes and DNA is pure nature - if we did not have survival instinct or the will to preserve our genetics, then we would not exist.

You can trace your DNA back to the very first lifeforms on Earth - millions of years of passing along and preserving DNA... what right do you have to not preserve it further ?
Ultima modifica da [N]ebsun; 17 set 2023, ore 2:57
Messaggio originale di Nebsun:
Messaggio originale di HisBangalore:
because, y'know, their parent's human rights to procreate and all.
Not even just human rights... just natural law and nature itself.. no one (no animal, bacteria, plant, fungi, etc) in the world today made the choice to be created / born.
What right has anyone alive today to deny the opportunity for something to be created ?

The fact we are alive, and have a natural instinct to survive and pass on our genes and DNA is pure nature - if we did not have survival instinct or the will to preserve our genetics, then we would not exist.

You can trace your DNA back to the very first lifeforms on Earth - millions of years of passing along and preserving DNA... what right do you have to not preserve it further ?

Rights and nature are two different things.
Denying to people the opportunity to give birth is not morally right, but it is also not more wrong than what parents do giving birth. Why the hell should they have the right to decide if their future kids must be born or not? In this world there is a lot of suffering and pain and several people regret the fact that they were born, but itr was not theire choice and suicide is not a solution: not being born at all is peaceful, not painful, giving yourself death is extremely scary and probably very painful.
Ultima modifica da gugnihr; 17 set 2023, ore 3:12
Messaggio originale di gugnihr:
Why the hell should they have the right to decide if their future kids must be born or not?
Because the living decide the fate of all. They have an obligation to their own DNA and their lineage before them to carry it on. Not giving birth is the greatest crime to their own self and all those who came before them (in their blood line)
Ultima modifica da [N]ebsun; 17 set 2023, ore 3:16
People have a right to reproduction. Humankind has an obligation and a responsibility, to not let itself go extinct. Resources exist to serve the humans, not the other way round, much less if they are going to be a "life-ender" of sorts.

For countless eons, people lived in absolute poverty, yet they succeeded in us being right here, right now. What would happen, had they cowered?

You neo-capitalists might need to re-examine your moral compass, code of honor and last remaining shreds of consciousness, (self) dignity, worth. Do whatever you want to yourselves, but leave other people alone. "My body my choice".-
Yeah, well rich kids are stupid.
Only rich kids = bad world.
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