Nino_Chaosdrache 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 12:10
Why are angels always shown as pricks?
Seriously, I know no game or movie were angels are the good, holy and protecting beings they are supposed to be. In Bayonetta they don't care if they kill innocent people( at least they try to kill Luka multiple times and Furtitudo is also not hesitating to destroy Vigrid and kill everyone inside of it) , in Darksiders they don't care for the people dying around them, but just for themselves, in Supernatural they also don't hesitate to kill innocent and in Angel's Sanctuary they are more gruesome than demons, except of Alexiel.
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2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 2:04 
How are we suppose to answer your question? Lol.
Anyways, i agree, angels in games are pricks.
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Azza ☠ 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 2:17 
It comes down to your defination of what an angel is...

Satan himself is an angel which was corrupted by power and hatred towards our own creation. Therefore a fallen angel, who acts like a prick towards human kind, being wicked and rebellious, casted out of Heaven.

An angel itself is simply a powerful being, without a physical body or gender (but normally protraited as male). They can either be good or bad, even neutral, it doesn't matter.

Some are labeled as "Watchers", these watch over mankind, but are not meant to get involved inbetween their fights (some however do break this rule). Therefore most allow humanity to kill each other, due to freewill, not approving of it as such, but rather working out an overall bigger picture rather than focusing on small details which doesn't concern them.
最後修改者:Azza ☠; 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 2:21
grounded in reality 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 2:49 
weeping angels
Rubik748 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 10:10 
Because you are thinking of the "male" version.
BenjiGonzo 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 10:25 
Inb4 religious argument.
Shasow 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 10:25 
Angels usually are recognized as "good" beings. Showing them commit evil deeds shows the viewer a different point of view and therefore increases "interest" in whatever it is.

Also, not all angels are the "Christian" view of angels.
最後修改者:Shasow; 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 10:26
LAMBENT LΣVIATHAN 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 11:01 
Probably all the people depicted in those works are heretics, or they dont see death as something bad, they live in the heavens after all.
最後修改者:LAMBENT LΣVIATHAN; 2014 年 2 月 28 日 下午 11:08
Nino_Chaosdrache 2014 年 3 月 12 日 上午 9:32 
引用自 Azza ☠
It comes down to your defination of what an angel is...

Satan himself is an angel which was corrupted by power and hatred towards our own creation. Therefore a fallen angel, who acts like a prick towards human kind, being wicked and rebellious, casted out of Heaven.

An angel itself is simply a powerful being, without a physical body or gender (but normally protraited as male). They can either be good or bad, even neutral, it doesn't matter.

Some are labeled as "Watchers", these watch over mankind, but are not meant to get involved inbetween their fights (some however do break this rule). Therefore most allow humanity to kill each other, due to freewill, not approving of it as such, but rather working out an overall bigger picture rather than focusing on small details which doesn't concern them.

Even when it's late, thank you for your detailed answer :)
Nino_Chaosdrache 2014 年 3 月 12 日 上午 9:43 
引用自 Shasow
Angels usually are recognized as "good" beings. Showing them commit evil deeds shows the viewer a different point of view and therefore increases "interest" in whatever it is.

Also, not all angels are the "Christian" view of angels.

I understand that point. But when it is like that, why aren't there more demons showed commiting good things to make them more interesting as well?
Smilodon 2014 年 3 月 12 日 上午 11:05 
引用自 Nino_Chaosdrache
引用自 Shasow
Angels usually are recognized as "good" beings. Showing them commit evil deeds shows the viewer a different point of view and therefore increases "interest" in whatever it is.

Also, not all angels are the "Christian" view of angels.

I understand that point. But when it is like that, why aren't there more demons showed commiting good things to make them more interesting as well?

Because good things aren't interesting.

引用自 box
weeping angels

I love you.
最後修改者:Smilodon; 2014 年 3 月 12 日 上午 11:06
Pollynim 2014 年 3 月 12 日 下午 5:00 
Are we counting book series also? Because there's Aziraphale (...and sort of Crowley) from Good Omens and Uriel from the Dresden files.

I think part of the reason is that good angels would be game-breakers. When they show up, they are quite literally on a mission from God. They pack a lot of firepower along with an almost guarantee that they are backing the winning team. Tension goes out the window. Bringing in good angels also leads to unfortunate religious/moral questions that creators are leery of getting into. No one gets put out if the evil psycho angel decides to torch a hospital, but if a messanger from God has no problem assisting a group that couldn't break the Ten Commandments harder if they had a hammer people start to wonder.

If it makes you feel any better pretend they're all fallen angels that are lying. It's not like any of them look like they're supposed to anyway.
Pollynim 2014 年 3 月 12 日 下午 5:01 
引用自 Nino_Chaosdrache
引用自 Shasow
Angels usually are recognized as "good" beings. Showing them commit evil deeds shows the viewer a different point of view and therefore increases "interest" in whatever it is.

Also, not all angels are the "Christian" view of angels.

I understand that point. But when it is like that, why aren't there more demons showed commiting good things to make them more interesting as well?

Crowley from Good Omens
Soundpulse 2014 年 3 月 12 日 下午 5:02 
引用自 Silverfox
Inb4 religious argument.
Been 12 days since this.
You're lucky OP.
Ailes 2014 年 3 月 13 日 下午 2:03 
Heroes of Might & Magic IV, maybe? Or other classic Fantasy strategy games.

Not sure. Maybe it's some anti-hero thing going on. If angels were good people may complain about things being boring or about religious implications. There are probably some games with them being good and I may just not remember. Some of the stuff you mentioned is pretty old, to be honest. Angel Sanctuary I wouldn't take too seriously anyway, it's some girlie Shonen Ai stuff from what I remember. And there are /is one) good angel(s) in Darksiders too, at least as far as I played through the series (I didn't finish Darksiders 2 yet).
最後修改者:Ailes; 2014 年 3 月 13 日 下午 2:14
Nino_Chaosdrache 2014 年 3 月 18 日 上午 5:08 
引用自 Pollynim
Are we counting book series also? Because there's Aziraphale (...and sort of Crowley) from Good Omens and Uriel from the Dresden files.

I think part of the reason is that good angels would be game-breakers. When they show up, they are quite literally on a mission from God. They pack a lot of firepower along with an almost guarantee that they are backing the winning team. Tension goes out the window. Bringing in good angels also leads to unfortunate religious/moral questions that creators are leery of getting into. No one gets put out if the evil psycho angel decides to torch a hospital, but if a messanger from God has no problem assisting a group that couldn't break the Ten Commandments harder if they had a hammer people start to wonder.

If it makes you feel any better pretend they're all fallen angels that are lying. It's not like any of them look like they're supposed to anyway.

I wouldn't say from the start that angels would be the winners. I mean if you look at the first level of Darksiders, the angels get their butts kicked by the demons and there are far more demons in the game. But I see the point of the religious discussion that could appear. I think Bayonetta solved that problem pretty well by showing an altered version of god in the form of Jubileus.

One thing is funny though. there is Uriel in Darksiders, too and she's on the angel's side there :)
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