Faolchu 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 4:16
How will we be affected if net neutrality will be lifted.
Big news of the week is that both the US and the EU want the lift the net neutrality and give the control to the richest 1% of the world so they can control what we get to see, how fast a page can load or a site and how we can be connected online with everything. Including games, forums and more.

I got the news from avaaz and i signed the petition just as i did when they wanted to introduce sopa.

I find this disturbing, net neutrality is very important for everything. Even for our games. If they can decide what will appear and what can be accessed this means that even Gabe will have to pay extra to distribute this content meaning we will have to pay to stay connected to steam. All hands will be forced and the internet will be controlled by the same kind of people that are in charge of the corporate gaming business like EA and Activision.

This is not good and it worries me and other people a lot. Find the news, read up on it and spread the word so we all fight against this.

-The richest 1% could now control what we all see on the Internet forever. It’s the apocalypse of the internet as we know it, and will erase the democratic promise of an information highway for everyone the founders of the world wide web imagined.

Together, 'Avaaz' has built on that vision, using the web to fight corruption, save lives, and bring people-powered aid to countries in crisis. But the US and the EU are on the verge of giving the richest corporations the right to show content fast, while paywalling or slowing down everything else. Avaaz’s ability to show the world citizen journalist footage from Syria, or run campaigns to save our planet is under threat!

Update: 31 January 2014
Great news! Hours after Avaaz and partners delivered our call outside his offices, the US Communications Chair announced he will react shortly to massive public pressure. He is feeling the heat! Now let’s double our numbers and win in the US and the EU -- keep signing and sharing
最後修改者:Faolchu; 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 4:19
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Marble 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 4:48 
Net neutrality was never law, so there is nothing to lift.

It has nothing to do with controlling what you see, it is simply ISP's making certain services (like Bittorrent) slower so that other services (like Youtube or Netflix) are faster. This is currently already how it works. If Net Neutrality becomes law, all services will be given equal priority.

ISP's have always throttled bandwidth for specific services (cheap ones especially).
Faolchu 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 4:49 
引用自 Canti
Net neutrality was never law, so there is nothing to lift.

It has nothing to do with controlling what you see, it is simply ISP's making certain services (like Bittorrent) slower so that other services (like Youtube or Netflix) are faster. This is currently already how it works. If Net Neutrality becomes law, all services will be given equal priority.

ISP's have always throttled bandwidth for specific services (cheap ones especially).

It has everything to do with this, are you actually defending this?

Net neutrality was never a law but was always intended and this is how it works. They want to take that away so they can do whatever they want with it like they intended with Sopa.

This is much bigger then just ISP's controlling content and is much worse.

The problem is they don't want all services to have net neutrality, they want certain content to be fast and disrupt other content so they can control the flow of information.

Just imagine if personalities like King-Kotick-and more would be in control of the internet
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GenPattonBR 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 5:00 
What Canti described is a fact and happens in several countries. The point, however, is that you can make anything go through port 80 or 443, which are harder to throttle. Anyhow....

In Brazil there is a law project that forces ISPs to log all sites visited by their clients, basically eveything they've done online. The data should be kept for 5 years and be available for law enforcement agencies within 12 hours of requisition. Although this law hasn't passed yet - there are several technical and structural problems with it, as you can imagine - lots of lobby money has been exchanging hands lately because of it. This law, in effect, gets rid of all and any anonymity one can have on the web.

All this that is happening in several countries, with governments trying to get any sort of control they can have over internet data and traffic, just goes to show that the internet has become threatening to those governments, more than it is dangerous or harmful to the individuals/citizens.




Faolchu 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 5:06 
Aah i see, now i understand what she meant but i hope you also agree this new regulation they want to introduce will affect even more on a global level.

If the richest 1% get the control they want to give them they can regulate anything, put stuff beind a paywall and basically dictate other companies how to handle their business online and block everything they want. Not only illegal things but also legal stuff that hinders them.

They'll have the power to say; No more online free gaming (maybe stupid example but it's what they can do if this passes).

When Sopa got obliterated the first thing i said; i wonder what they'll come up next.

Apparantly this is it.

ISP's blocking stuff can easily be bypassed, it's only an annoyance.
The top 1% blocking, deleting and controlling the internet to their will is more then an annoyance.
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Marble 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 5:17 
This could potentially happen under current law, but it hasn't yet.

If they were to do this, people would just move to another provider. Blocking access to high-traffic services like Youtube (and in this case Steam) would just mean people will go elsewhere and they lose their customers. It's in their best interests to make sure these services remain accessible.

Youtube and Netflix together make up over 50% of all data transfered over the Internet in the US. ISP's are basically having to build faster and bigger networks just to provide this service to users. Surely these bandwidth-hogging companies should also be contributing to the network costs if they are using such a massive part of it?
Faolchu 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 5:31 
Aah but that's why they are making this one up. You couldn't move to a different provider as all providers will be forced to throttle the content to the desire of the 1% in charge and they want to make a paywall if you want that specific content faster (out of control of the isp's)

Let's say Steam is not by the 1%, if you don't want to wait 12 hours to download a game at slow speed you'll need to pay 1EUR for that specific download.

Want to upload high res art to DeviantArt? Another extra 1EUR.

Want to download Indie music from a free download website, even when the creator of that said music chooses that specific free download website as their sole distributor (lot's that do that), pay an extra fee.




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Marble 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 7:37 
That's not how it works. Who are these "1%" you keep talking about?

From what you are describing, it sounds to me like you've been reading too much fear-mongering propaganda.
Val 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 7:47 
I never believed in the concept of net neutrality so I'm just gonna go on with my daily life without caring about this particular issue.
grounded in reality 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 7:47 
don't worry.
if it happens, everyone will stop using the internet for like a month and they will change it back.
Gyve 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 7:59 
i disagree with selling the internet and letting a rich idiot practicly own it (i think i should be public property) but i do agree with giving priority to ceartan websites (such as news websites or any website that gives reliable information, i also think than if a website get more than a ceartan amount of ''hits'' every day it should also take minor priority.)
Gyve 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 8:01 
but in situations like these people tend to overreact, so im gonna get involved when it becomes a problem.
NisseDood 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 8:16 
Most of the time its pirates that are worried.
Priority nr1 on the internet is always porn anyway.:closetgamer:
Val 2014 年 2 月 1 日 上午 8:21 
引用自 NisseDood
Priority nr1 on the internet is always porn anyway.:closetgamer:

ISP's have been lobbying governments all around the world to block those sites as well, it'll just be a matter of time before they charge extra for the feature to watch those content for the 90% of the population that doesn't know how to get around it.
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