The Change of The Video Game Community/Market

[[1DoD] Dodge]

Video games have changed a lot over the years, mostly for the better. However it seems in the past ten years they've made a huge change for the worse in both quality as an art and as a piece of entertainment. In the past it was common to jump into an Xbox party with a random you met in a game and it be full with 8 people in it and end up making friends with a few more in there, join them later and repeat the process. We used to send and receive requests multiple times a day, but now I haven't sent one or received one that ended in playing any game in months. While I work a lot, it generally seems like the community aspect of gaming has mostly died. Playstation disallowing you to join parties owned by people who are not your friend, or banning you for certain language and other similar policies by multiple companies has certainly hindered the development of a community, but it also seems that the "new age" of players and the community is far less fun and far more competitive than it used to be. Now you speak to somebody and they don't "talk ♥♥♥♥ and laugh" they just talk ♥♥♥♥ and want to compete to no end. Don't get me wrong, I was damn good back when I had more time, and played very competitively, but it seems to be very different now. Be that the Twitch streamers pushing for more and more competitive shooters or be that just the kids growing up in a world of losing constantly and now being old enough to "git gud" I am unsure, but I just know that it's not fun anymore. Had a group of 4 core members always with multiple others in and out. Now it's just two of us, sad.

On the other hand, seems that the market has been flooded with games purely made for a corporation with an agenda and a profit margin and nobody in the development has any pride in the project or in their work. Its sad, and games have devolved from things to be excited about to things to be disappointed in before it has even released. Battlefield being the perfect example of a series with plenty of potential still after all of the installments. Still improvements to be made, but it has repeatedly devolved. Assassin's Creed and Far Cry are hard to differentiate from each other and they seem to be more advertisements for their in game store than they are a product in themselves. Bethesda has released the same game a dozen times, I'm not even aware as to how many times. GTAV has been released on three different generations of consoles and still makes more money than their newest releases. It's a sad world we play in.

~Dodge

[LQIM]

https://youtu.be/gOovr8C_P6U
TLDW people want more stuff for less money. Indie devs get pushed out of the market and big devs can keep pumping out the same game every year

[[1DoD] Dodge]

Originally posted by HQIB 🇮🇪 (Bonesaw enjoyer):

https://youtu.be/gOovr8C_P6U
TLDW people want more stuff for less money. Indie devs get pushed out of the market and big devs can keep pumping out the same game every year

Agreed. It's disgusting. The bar for a popular game is often so high Indie developers cannot produce a product that fits very often, but the AAA companies who can just product garbage.

[Ragnaroni]

Heh meanwhile, i got in a MW3 match, full queue and had the exact experience you would have back in 2011. Only flaw is that they were almost all Russians

[moi]

Originally posted by HQIB 🇮🇪 (Bonesaw enjoyer):

https://youtu.be/gOovr8C_P6U
TLDW people want more stuff for less money. Indie devs get pushed out of the market and big devs can keep pumping out the same game every year

This,that's why I don't buy from big Devs, especially EA,they're so much guilty of it like,FIFA 19,20,22,23... And? What changed? I think sports games which release yearly are just here for cashgrabbing

[Fumo Bnnuy n Friends]

Game company devs/publishers or the business side of game industry are morons but smart businessmen morons.

They will literally photocopy pics of poop if it'll make them quick and alot of $$$$ for a few weeks vs
making actual art pictures that'll make them not as much money in a slower process but longer for more months.


The loud minority of veteran gamers is drowned out by the louder but grunting majority

And

the majority of all gamers are overshadowed by the 300lb social media influencers or anyone with 100k people and a camera complaining about any and every aspect in games they'll 99% never play or buy or at least play long term.


Even more so oversees where this garbage is seen as "exotic" to the chinese audience or "oooo pretty flashy colors" by the kiddies below age 16 literally anywhere in the world.


Now i get it for stuff like censorship on public chats. Nintendo had issues with pdf files (say it fast you'll get the term im using) on miiverse chat. But for stuff like rated M or even Rated T games hard pushing the bar it's like "the rating is there for a reason! Why do adults think it won't be filled with the worst of the worst people especially public servers online".


MW2 through CoD BO2 was imo the trial by fire era where people on console would just ass blast you and it would harden you or weed you out lmao. Also people knew then you would just mute or join a private chat instead of trying to just make it so that no one not even yourself could talk to other people.

Also at this time we got most of the turn of the century classics being pumped out like bioshock dead space actual good NBA 2K or FIFA games that tbh weren't as horrid as they are now just shameless reskins adding new teams and players and just charging through the nose for a game that will be rehashed same next year.

The golden age of games where people tried to set records for games in the good light not just trying to out stupid the last horrible company for bad PR that would get their games and company easily into the minds of people who forget and have the memory of a goldfish.

[gugnihr]

internet ruined gaming in so many ways in my opinion.

[[1DoD] Dodge]

Originally posted by Fumo Gaming:

Game company devs/publishers or the business side of game industry are morons but smart businessmen morons.

They will literally photocopy pics of poop if it'll make them quick and alot of $$$$ for a few weeks vs
making actual art pictures that'll make them not as much money in a slower process but longer for more months.


The loud minority of veteran gamers is drowned out by the louder but grunting majority

And

the majority of all gamers are overshadowed by the 300lb social media influencers or anyone with 100k people and a camera complaining about any and every aspect in games they'll 99% never play or buy or at least play long term.


Even more so oversees where this garbage is seen as "exotic" to the chinese audience or "oooo pretty flashy colors" by the kiddies below age 16 literally anywhere in the world.


Now i get it for stuff like censorship on public chats. Nintendo had issues with pdf files (say it fast you'll get the term im using) on miiverse chat. But for stuff like rated M or even Rated T games hard pushing the bar it's like "the rating is there for a reason! Why do adults think it won't be filled with the worst of the worst people especially public servers online".


MW2 through CoD BO2 was imo the trial by fire era where people on console would just ass blast you and it would harden you or weed you out lmao. Also people knew then you would just mute or join a private chat instead of trying to just make it so that no one not even yourself could talk to other people.

Also at this time we got most of the turn of the century classics being pumped out like bioshock dead space actual good NBA 2K or FIFA games that tbh weren't as horrid as they are now just shameless reskins adding new teams and players and just charging through the nose for a game that will be rehashed same next year.

The golden age of games where people tried to set records for games in the good light not just trying to out stupid the last horrible company for bad PR that would get their games and company easily into the minds of people who forget and have the memory of a goldfish.

Regardless of anything, I feel that I shouldn't be able to be banned or somehow hindered for saying anything I wish to say. That's just freedom of speech, feelings be damned.

[Crazy Tiger]

If you only focus on multiplayer or AAA games, you'll indeed have a chance of being disappointed. Good thing there is quite the gaming outside of those.

[moi]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

If you only focus on multiplayer or AAA games, you'll indeed have a chance of being disappointed. Good thing there is quite the gaming outside of those.

Yep, personally I find myself satisfied with indie games more than AAA games nowadays

[Fumo Bnnuy n Friends]

Originally posted by 1DoD Dodge:

Originally posted by Fumo Gaming:

Game company devs/publishers or the business side of game industry are morons but smart businessmen morons.

They will literally photocopy pics of poop if it'll make them quick and alot of $$$$ for a few weeks vs
making actual art pictures that'll make them not as much money in a slower process but longer for more months.


The loud minority of veteran gamers is drowned out by the louder but grunting majority

And

the majority of all gamers are overshadowed by the 300lb social media influencers or anyone with 100k people and a camera complaining about any and every aspect in games they'll 99% never play or buy or at least play long term.


Even more so oversees where this garbage is seen as "exotic" to the chinese audience or "oooo pretty flashy colors" by the kiddies below age 16 literally anywhere in the world.


Now i get it for stuff like censorship on public chats. Nintendo had issues with pdf files (say it fast you'll get the term im using) on miiverse chat. But for stuff like rated M or even Rated T games hard pushing the bar it's like "the rating is there for a reason! Why do adults think it won't be filled with the worst of the worst people especially public servers online".


MW2 through CoD BO2 was imo the trial by fire era where people on console would just ass blast you and it would harden you or weed you out lmao. Also people knew then you would just mute or join a private chat instead of trying to just make it so that no one not even yourself could talk to other people.

Also at this time we got most of the turn of the century classics being pumped out like bioshock dead space actual good NBA 2K or FIFA games that tbh weren't as horrid as they are now just shameless reskins adding new teams and players and just charging through the nose for a game that will be rehashed same next year.

The golden age of games where people tried to set records for games in the good light not just trying to out stupid the last horrible company for bad PR that would get their games and company easily into the minds of people who forget and have the memory of a goldfish.

Regardless of anything, I feel that I shouldn't be able to be banned or somehow hindered for saying anything I wish to say. That's just freedom of speech, feelings be damned.

outside of threats like actual im going to find you and kill you threats several times i'd say yeah just trash talk should be part of a healthy game environment. Help people cope with losing or express winning. Then flip next round if they win / lose.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Friends]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

If you only focus on multiplayer or AAA games, you'll indeed have a chance of being disappointed. Good thing there is quite the gaming outside of those.

AAA games are now just a title like organic or BPA free or no agent orange tags they use on fruit / veggies at the grocery stores to trick dumb blissfully ignorant shoppers into buying them.

Multiplayer 50/50. Sadly most multiplayer games are mostly all games nowadays outside of the niche genres. Not only that but multiplayer should be renamed multi-dollar since they fill them to the brim with dlc comsetics and p2w in some cases.

[[1DoD] Dodge]

Originally posted by Fumo Gaming:

Originally posted by 1DoD Dodge:

Regardless of anything, I feel that I shouldn't be able to be banned or somehow hindered for saying anything I wish to say. That's just freedom of speech, feelings be damned.

outside of threats like actual im going to find you and kill you threats several times i'd say yeah just trash talk should be part of a healthy game environment. Help people cope with losing or express winning. Then flip next round if they win / lose.

Agreed, anything beyond a literal law of the country the service is hosted should be free game.

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old is gold
remember

[[1DoD] Dodge]

Agreed

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Armstrong🅉:

old is gold
remember

[Your_White_Knight]

Originally posted by 1DoD Dodge:

The Change of The Video Game Community/Market

Video games have changed a lot over the years, mostly for the better. However it seems in the past ten years they've made a huge change for the worse in both quality as an art and as a piece of entertainment. In the past it was common to jump into an Xbox party with a random you met in a game and it be full with 8 people in it and end up making friends with a few more in there, join them later and repeat the process. We used to send and receive requests multiple times a day, but now I haven't sent one or received one that ended in playing any game in months. While I work a lot, it generally seems like the community aspect of gaming has mostly died. Playstation disallowing you to join parties owned by people who are not your friend, or banning you for certain language and other similar policies by multiple companies has certainly hindered the development of a community, but it also seems that the "new age" of players and the community is far less fun and far more competitive than it used to be. Now you speak to somebody and they don't "talk ♥♥♥♥ and laugh" they just talk ♥♥♥♥ and want to compete to no end. Don't get me wrong, I was damn good back when I had more time, and played very competitively, but it seems to be very different now. Be that the Twitch streamers pushing for more and more competitive shooters or be that just the kids growing up in a world of losing constantly and now being old enough to "git gud" I am unsure, but I just know that it's not fun anymore. Had a group of 4 core members always with multiple others in and out. Now it's just two of us, sad.

On the other hand, seems that the market has been flooded with games purely made for a corporation with an agenda and a profit margin and nobody in the development has any pride in the project or in their work. Its sad, and games have devolved from things to be excited about to things to be disappointed in before it has even released. Battlefield being the perfect example of a series with plenty of potential still after all of the installments. Still improvements to be made, but it has repeatedly devolved. Assassin's Creed and Far Cry are hard to differentiate from each other and they seem to be more advertisements for their in game store than they are a product in themselves. Bethesda has released the same game a dozen times, I'm not even aware as to how many times. GTAV has been released on three different generations of consoles and still makes more money than their newest releases. It's a sad world we play in.

~Dodge

I hate to burst anyone's bubble... but games always were for making profit...

It's all well and good to try to blame companies about being too "corporate" but nobody is forcing people to buy the products... if you're unhappy, don't buy it... but you will anyway so you can't blame that on anyone but yourself.

It's a 50% / 50% world out there people... if you're sad about the gaming world do something about it rather then just sit around and complain about it...