How and why did Rome fall?

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LittleSnottyBrat 12. říj. 2022 v 21.46

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The nameless Gamer 13. říj. 2022 v 2.23

LittleSnottyBrat původně napsal:
The nameless Commander původně napsal:
The two main reasons would be its size and the treatment of its workforce. The sheer size made it ultimately impossible even for a senate of 100 people to keep track of everything going on in the country and then there were the slave riots. The Roman Empire's economy had ruthlessly exploited and abused slaves as workforce and eventually they had enough. Internal issues combined with constant incursions of bordering tribes... the Huns gave the western half of it the coup de grace. The eastern half made it another 1000 years by abolishing slavery and clever politics.

Right. Aside from slavery, Rome was great for its period of time.

Agreed. Ancient Rome had a better infrastructure, roads and sewage system than even many modern cities today have. Last time I watched a documentary on it, my comment was: "Looks like the world still hasn't recovered from the fall of the Roman Empire."

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Fumo Bnnuy n Frends 13. říj. 2022 v 2.27

LittleSnottyBrat původně napsal:
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tbh a number of factors

but none more so than what the middle ages would become: Power Struggle

They expanded wayyyyy too fast for their own good. Rather than trying to keep the government together they just could kill the current caesar or political figures / military figures and move up the ranks while continuing their conquests of the areas.

They lacked any loyalty or reason to stay in their position. It was literally following the next in line and marriages that were forced for political stability (that turned out to be the opp in alot of ways).

Romans they had the best military and tactics. But they lacked something called morality and ethics. Not in the traditional sense but in the higher sense of loyalty.

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ʟǟֆȶʟɨʋɨռɢքօɛȶ 13. říj. 2022 v 3.05

https://mises.org/library/inflation-and-fall-roman-empire

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Xero_Daxter 13. říj. 2022 v 3.10

99 percent all questions could of been answered if people would just google stuff.

With me I actually ask because I googled with no results. Like the time my friend though he would’t be lactose intolerant anymore if he kept drinking milk.

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Neurotic Panda 13. říj. 2022 v 3.14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki4qTDJfT2M

look at the U.S. currently and your answer about the fall of Rome explains itself, in real time, in 2022.

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isomorphic_projection 13. říj. 2022 v 3.32

Sports sucked and the cake run out.

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Pocahawtness 13. říj. 2022 v 3.34

They became complacent and politically divided. They lost the innovation and drive that made them great. I mean this is a reoccurring story in history.

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steven1mac 13. říj. 2022 v 3.47

Civil infighting, peasants leaving the land, replaced with a large slave plantations, stop growing staple crops for cash crops, no nearby empire to plunder for gold, unchecked barbarian immigration, willing dividing the empire into two peaces the poor west and the rich east, handing out free bread to the citizens of Rome so they wouldn't have unrest, different vanity project for different emperors, and the fact that it was cheaper to live in barbarian land than the empire in the last few decades so plebs had little reason to resist.

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Electric Cupcake 13. říj. 2022 v 3.50

It didn't fall, so much as decline over centuries, starting long before the Visigoths and Vandals came.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/25717
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_the_Decline_and_Fall_of_the_Roman_Empire

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Out Of Bubblegum 13. říj. 2022 v 3.53

100% truthful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OG83i7dtQk

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Pieshaman 13. říj. 2022 v 4.03

The fall of rome, as in the fall of the western roman empire I assume you asking, is caused by the loss of central political control.
This happened over time by multiple reasons happening simultaneously.
The military became overstretched and the empire started to fail to enforce it's wishes upon its territories, while at the same time the economy was waning and incompetent emperors were ruling, which caused mayor internal power struggles within rome itself while barbarian tribes put pressure on it's outer borders.
Then there was also a climate change happening and outbreak of diseases that didn't help too ofcourse in the already downspiraling situation.

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LittleSnottyBrat 13. říj. 2022 v 5.12

So many interesting, funny and fascinated answers. I liked. Nice!

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Magma Dragoon 13. říj. 2022 v 5.13

After destroying Carthage they had no more external enemies. Roman people were now the biggest threat to Roman aristocrats, the eye of Sauron turned inward.

Though it was illegal for any man to own more than 500 acres, the elites flagrantly disregarded and began a campaign of economic centralization that dispossessed farmers in the Italian heartland. These were the people who formed the bulk of the Roman army, and now they were crowded into shantytowns (insulae) with no stake in there empire and no reason to fight for it.

Politics became depraved, the ruling party increasingly just arrested or assassinated opposition senators or anyone campaigning on reform.

Caesar fixes the political situation by making the senate largely irrelevant (except when it killed him and a few other times) but the sentiment lacking stake persisted among the commoners. They came to rely on foreign mercenaries, both because they were outside Roman politics and the Italians never regained their economic self reliance and fighting spirit. Even 1000 years later Italian merchant republic leaders had a hard time understanding en belleum ensiferrum non augem.

As far as the people living at the time were concerned the Roman empire never fell, because there was always some political unit claiming to be the Roman empire. When the west fell the Byzantine emperors claimed sovereignty over Italy, when the east fell both the papacy and the Holy Roman Empire claimed to be successors of the Roman empire. The Roman church maintains its claim to this day.

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