How long does a spider normally stay in a room?

[mason]

(1st part in greentext because it is easier to explain

>2am last night
>watching video, with hand not on mouse
>see spider crawling onto/in my mouse (Corsair M65)
>omg
>♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ run out of the room and close the door


Now is the first time I have been back in the room, is the spider most likely still in here, or has it most likely left?

im so spooked, I hate spiders

[Darknayse.TTV]

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fact only states spiders.

If it were a "fact", it has to be proven in all circumstances.

they added arachnids on their own accout,probably to simplify the count.and i have an almanac from scholastic that uses spiders in the count.

Now you're just making stuff up. What "amalmac" is this?

and you still have not shown me any sorces that you used to prove the fact wrong.

I told you, QI and common sense. How the ♥♥♥♥ do you think they worked that out except this nonsense method Keyes and I mentioned? Hell, where are your sources?

almanacs(yes they exist dumbass.)common sense cant prove anything unless you knew the fact before hand so you would need another sorce.and i have better things to do than make ♥♥♥♥ up.so when your done being the autistic idiot you are,please show me your sorces.oh and if it has to be proven in all sircomstances,then nothing is able to be proven true.thus creating a paradox as if nothing is true then all is false,so it has to be true etc.

[76561198119391273]

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well,if there is nothing but glass used and the walls are 1 foot thick,there would not be enough support for the roof.the doors being airlocks i presume,are,of corse,leakproof.and in a room sit hthat much glass,even if checked,has a high probability of having at least a single spider in it.plus,a spider could have gotten in the airlock over time and could be in the room.and back to the roof.there would not be enough support for all of the weight,it would soon crack and/or shatter into the room.spider get in the crack without the test subject entering yet,subject enters,BOOM!spider is in room.now imagine if that spider had time to lay eggs.by the time the test subject enters,there could be many spiders in said room.and how long is the subject in the room?they may suffucate if the air ran out.

Nothing to prevent anyone from using glass pillars to support the weight.

No, there isn't any probability of having a spider.

If any spider is inside. It would be exterminated and the body thrown out first.

There are no places for it to hide either.

[76561198119391273]

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If it were a "fact", it has to be proven in all circumstances.



Now you're just making stuff up. What "amalmac" is this?



I told you, QI and common sense. How the ♥♥♥♥ do you think they worked that out except this nonsense method Keyes and I mentioned? Hell, where are your sources?

almanacs(yes they exist dumbass.)common sense cant prove anything unless you knew the fact before hand so you would need another sorce.and i have better things to do than make ♥♥♥♥ up.so when your done being the autistic idiot you are,please show me your sorces.oh and if it has to be proven in all sircomstances,then nothing is able to be proven true.thus creating a paradox as if nothing is true then all is false,so it has to be true etc.

Disregarding all the name calling, you made the claim. The burden of proof lies with you, not him.

[Darknayse.TTV]

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well,if there is nothing but glass used and the walls are 1 foot thick,there would not be enough support for the roof.the doors being airlocks i presume,are,of corse,leakproof.and in a room sit hthat much glass,even if checked,has a high probability of having at least a single spider in it.plus,a spider could have gotten in the airlock over time and could be in the room.and back to the roof.there would not be enough support for all of the weight,it would soon crack and/or shatter into the room.spider get in the crack without the test subject entering yet,subject enters,BOOM!spider is in room.now imagine if that spider had time to lay eggs.by the time the test subject enters,there could be many spiders in said room.and how long is the subject in the room?they may suffucate if the air ran out.

Nothing to prevent anyone from using glass pillars to support the weight.

No, there isn't any probability of having a spider.

If any spider is inside. It would be exterminated and the body thrown out first.

There are no places for it to hide either.

but you said that the room was empty.and if you DID add pillars,then it could add more cover to the spider.and it could hide behind the pillars as they searched.and due to the weight of the glass if it is 1 foot thick,you would need quite a few pillars to hold it up.

[Darknayse.TTV]

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almanacs(yes they exist dumbass.)common sense cant prove anything unless you knew the fact before hand so you would need another sorce.and i have better things to do than make ♥♥♥♥ up.so when your done being the autistic idiot you are,please show me your sorces.oh and if it has to be proven in all sircomstances,then nothing is able to be proven true.thus creating a paradox as if nothing is true then all is false,so it has to be true etc.

Disregarding all the name calling, you made the claim. The burden of proof lies with you, not him.

i stated my sorces.i could add more,as i have more,but i just stated the easiest thing for a 7 year old dumbass to understand.

[76561198119391273]

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Nothing to prevent anyone from using glass pillars to support the weight.

No, there isn't any probability of having a spider.

If any spider is inside. It would be exterminated and the body thrown out first.

There are no places for it to hide either.

but you said that the room was empty.and if you DID add pillars,then it could add more cover to the spider.and it could hide behind the pillars as they searched.and due to the weight of the glass if it is 1 foot thick,you would need quite a few pillars to hold it up.

The room is empty. Pillars are part of the room, not furniture or the likes.

No, they don't add cover.

Depending upon thickness and placement, you don't need alot of pillars.

[76561198119391273]

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Disregarding all the name calling, you made the claim. The burden of proof lies with you, not him.

i stated my sorces.i could add more,as i have more,but i just stated the easiest thing for a 7 year old dumbass to understand.

I haven't seen any links. That is what he is reffering to.

[Darknayse.TTV]

ok.but they could add cover as they are glass.you never CLARIFIED(lol.puns.)if the glass was clear,natural glass or stained.so it could theoretlcly add cover.and even then,you are right about the pillars able to hold it up,but as i have a large ammount of expierience in comercial architecture,i know some things that state that x ammount of weight requires x ammount of support or more.based on the fact that its a ceiling of 1 foot of glass would weigh quite a bit due to the size of the room you stated.

[Darknayse.TTV]

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i stated my sorces.i could add more,as i have more,but i just stated the easiest thing for a 7 year old dumbass to understand.

I haven't seen any links. That is what he is reffering to.

well he would need to tell me to add them,as there is no proof that he wanted links.if he wanted them,i would add them.

[76561198119391273]

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ok.but they could add cover as they are glass.you never CLARIFIED(lol.puns.)if the glass was clear,natural glass or stained.so it could theoretlcly add cover.and even then,you are right about the pillars able to hold it up,but as i have a large ammount of expierience in comercial architecture,i know some things that state that x ammount of weight requires x ammount of support or more.based on the fact that its a ceiling of 1 foot of glass would weigh quite a bit due to the size of the room you stated.

The glass is clear. The reason why using it as the material for the purpose of this experiment.

Also, it isn't X amount of support as in number, so we are good.

[76561198119391273]

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I haven't seen any links. That is what he is reffering to.

well he would need to tell me to add them,as there is no proof that he wanted links.if he wanted them,i would add them.

That is what everyone in these forums mean by proof/source (or atleast him if my time spent arguing with him is anything to go by).

[Darknayse.TTV]

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ok.but they could add cover as they are glass.you never CLARIFIED(lol.puns.)if the glass was clear,natural glass or stained.so it could theoretlcly add cover.and even then,you are right about the pillars able to hold it up,but as i have a large ammount of expierience in comercial architecture,i know some things that state that x ammount of weight requires x ammount of support or more.based on the fact that its a ceiling of 1 foot of glass would weigh quite a bit due to the size of the room you stated.

The glass is clear. The reason why using it as the material for the purpose of this experiment.

Also, it isn't X amount of support as in number, so we are good.

i dont understand.but the thing is,even if said glass is clear,the spider can still go unnoticed my continuously moving around.

[76561198119391273]

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The glass is clear. The reason why using it as the material for the purpose of this experiment.

Also, it isn't X amount of support as in number, so we are good.

i dont understand.but the thing is,even if said glass is clear,the spider can still go unnoticed my continuously moving around.

You can vaccum the entire place first so no need to find it by hand.

Also if my math is correct (forgive me if I am wrong) ;
The glass ceiling would weigh aprroximately 22464 pounds while if it was made of reinforced concrete, aprrox. 21600 pounds. So not much difference.

Edit: just noticed that it is for a 12x12 ceiling. But you get the idea.

62400 vs 60000 for 20x20.

[Patchy]

Wow. People take exterminating a single spider more complex than I thought.

[intok]

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you can do whatever you want,a lot of spiders are immune to most cleaners and chemicals.thats why you see so few spider sprays(if any)and not all of them are for the same species.TL;DR : the room would still have a spider within 8 feet of you.

No it wouldn't. If you get rid of any present and then create a closed environment, how are they getting in ?

Baby spiders are light enough that they can glide on the wind by using their web. I've had a cloud of them land on me out of nowhere with literally nothing above me for a mile in all directions.