How long does a spider normally stay in a room?

[mason]

(1st part in greentext because it is easier to explain

>2am last night
>watching video, with hand not on mouse
>see spider crawling onto/in my mouse (Corsair M65)
>omg
>♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ run out of the room and close the door


Now is the first time I have been back in the room, is the spider most likely still in here, or has it most likely left?

im so spooked, I hate spiders

[76561198119391273]

Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

Messaggio originale di Maya:

Alright. Create a cubical room of 20 feet length, breadth and height. Clean it thoroughly. Enter it. Go to the middle. Enjoy.

you can do whatever you want,a lot of spiders are immune to most cleaners and chemicals.thats why you see so few spider sprays(if any)and not all of them are for the same species.TL;DR : the room would still have a spider within 8 feet of you.

No it wouldn't. If you get rid of any present and then create a closed environment, how are they getting in ?

[gleofrocga]

Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

Messaggio originale di Keyes:

That statement is most likely based on averages. If you're being scientific, you should know that "facts" really don't exist. Information will always change, and there will always be things beyond our comprehension.

i never said anything about science.i simply stated a fact and that i was proven.im like a middle man between the fact that was stated and this discussion.as i recall,when i read the fact it also said nothing about science either,but that was a year or two ago.

How is it a "fact" or a proven idea? Lets break down your exact words.

"no matter where you are"

So if you're in the vacuum of space, or in deep sea ravines, I'll still be 8 feet from a spider?

To conclude, it's not a fact; there's too many variables that would be constantly changing your statement, to for it to be in anyway in the long term, true.

of course, defining a fact is hard, for example, grass is green. How can you consider this a fact? thats from a human perspective, what about other animals? or mammals? also, the amount of shades of green, the way grass can become dry and die, and what about from the ultimate perspective, not an organic view, which is pretty silly to think about and I'm probably starting to sound like some crazy person talking about how anything looks our sounds like outside of any orginism, and maybe other unknown senses of possible extra terrestials may detect "grass" in a different way, okay I'll shut up.

tl;dr
facts can't exist, only theories.

[Darknayse.TTV]

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Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

you can do whatever you want,a lot of spiders are immune to most cleaners and chemicals.thats why you see so few spider sprays(if any)and not all of them are for the same species.TL;DR : the room would still have a spider within 8 feet of you.

No it wouldn't. If you get rid of any present and then create a closed environment, how are they getting in ?

floors.there is always a large enough gap for at least one species of spider.those edges and borders that are on most walls at the bottom have gaps.most floors have small enough holes or will be eaten through.and even then,a sphere has an infinate ammount of radiuses(or radii.or whatever.)

[Fork_Q2]

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but it has.look it up.

I have, it's false for the reasons Maya and Keyes mentioned. It's entirely based on averages, in other words, a person living on a boat would have just as many spiders as someone else who keeps pet spiders... An intelligent person would easily see through this nonsense.

[Darknayse.TTV]

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Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

i never said anything about science.i simply stated a fact and that i was proven.im like a middle man between the fact that was stated and this discussion.as i recall,when i read the fact it also said nothing about science either,but that was a year or two ago.

How is it a "fact" or a proven idea? Lets break down your exact words.

"no matter where you are"

So if you're in the vacuum of space, or in deep sea ravines, I'll still be 8 feet from a spider?

To conclude, it's not a fact; there's too many variables that would be constantly changing your statement, to for it to be in anyway in the long term, true.

i diddnt make the fact.i simply stated it.but yes.there are many species of animal being discovered every day.so who says that you wont(and you couldnt brethe in the vacuum,so you would be dead.and the pressure in said ravine would crush you in mere moments.)

[76561198119391273]

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Messaggio originale di Maya:

No it wouldn't. If you get rid of any present and then create a closed environment, how are they getting in ?

floors.there is always a large enough gap for at least one species of spider.those edges and borders that are on most walls at the bottom have gaps.most floors have small enough holes or will be eaten through.and even then,a sphere has an infinate ammount of radiuses(or radii.or whatever.)

We are talking about creating a room for the sole purpose of demonstrating this. What if said room was built on top of a 9 foot thick slab of concrete ?

Let us say that the walls are made of glass.

[Darknayse.TTV]

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Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

but it has.look it up.

I have, it's false for the reasons Maya and Keyes mentioned. It's entirely based on averages, in other words, a person living on a boat would have just as many spiders as someone else who keeps pet spiders... An intelligent person would easily see through this nonsense.

ok,if thats so,i would like the resorces you have seen this on.ive been bored latly and dont have any plans and that stuff intrests me.(not kidding.i love it.i know im weird. o.O)

[Darknayse.TTV]

Messaggio originale di Maya:

Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

floors.there is always a large enough gap for at least one species of spider.those edges and borders that are on most walls at the bottom have gaps.most floors have small enough holes or will be eaten through.and even then,a sphere has an infinate ammount of radiuses(or radii.or whatever.)

We are talking about creating a room for the sole purpose of demonstrating this. What if said room was built on top of a 9 foot thick slab of concrete ?

Let us say that the walls are made of glass.

i have PERSONALY seen spiders slowly eat through concrete.and,as a concrete finisher,i know that spiders are in most portions of concrete.i nor the fact said that said spiders had to be alive.

[76561198119391273]

Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

Messaggio originale di Maya:

We are talking about creating a room for the sole purpose of demonstrating this. What if said room was built on top of a 9 foot thick slab of concrete ?

Let us say that the walls are made of glass.

i have PERSONALY seen spiders slowly eat through concrete.and,as a concrete finisher,i know that spiders are in most portions of concrete.i nor the fact said that said spiders had to be alive.

Then let us replace concrete with glass too.

[Fork_Q2]

Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

Messaggio originale di Fork_Q:

I have, it's false for the reasons Maya and Keyes mentioned. It's entirely based on averages, in other words, a person living on a boat would have just as many spiders as someone else who keeps pet spiders... An intelligent person would easily see through this nonsense.

ok,if thats so,i would like the resorces you have seen this on.ive been bored latly and dont have any plans and that stuff intrests me.(not kidding.i love it.i know im weird. o.O)

It's the exact same faulty logic based on the the same thing about mice: "you are not more than x feet from a mouse", take estimated mouse population and divide it by area square feet of the country - which is preposterous because mice do not live in an perfectly even popualtion distribution. Just like spiders do not.

[Darknayse.TTV]

glass can be eaten through and is still able to flow and be moved while cooling.i had lived with my mom when she ordered a wardrobe that had some windows.one of them was later replaced due to a rare case of a spider IN the glass.

[Darknayse.TTV]

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Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

ok,if thats so,i would like the resorces you have seen this on.ive been bored latly and dont have any plans and that stuff intrests me.(not kidding.i love it.i know im weird. o.O)

It's the exact same faulty logic based on the the same thing about mice: "you are not more than x feet from a mouse", take estimated mouse population and divide it by area square feet of the country - which is preposterous because mice do not live in an perfectly even popualtion distribution. Just like spiders do not.

where are the sorces that you have collected this info from?and considdering that insects of all kinds(including arachnids)have the highest population of any other known living thing in this world,spiders could be at an area every 8 feet.

[76561198119391273]

Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

glass can be eaten through and is still able to flow and be moved while cooling.i had lived with my mom when she ordered a wardrobe that had some windows.one of them was later replaced due to a rare case of a spider IN the glass.

I have yet to see a spider eat a glass, so let us call myth busters on that.

Now, in this scenario, the panels are examined to make sure that there are no spiders in them.

And also, the spider need be within 8 feet. We are talking about an eclosed room that is 20 feet in l,b&h with a floor 9 feet thick.

[Darknayse.TTV]

Messaggio originale di Maya:

Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

glass can be eaten through and is still able to flow and be moved while cooling.i had lived with my mom when she ordered a wardrobe that had some windows.one of them was later replaced due to a rare case of a spider IN the glass.

I have yet to see a spider eat a glass, so let us call myth busters on that.

Now, in this scenario, the panels are examined to make sure that there are no spiders in them.

And also, the spider need be within 8 feet. We are talking about an eclosed room that is 20 feet in l,b&h with a floor 9 feet thick.

please clarify a few things for me,would you?

[Fork_Q2]

Messaggio originale di ↑darkMAtrIX621:

Messaggio originale di Fork_Q:

It's the exact same faulty logic based on the the same thing about mice: "you are not more than x feet from a mouse", take estimated mouse population and divide it by area square feet of the country - which is preposterous because mice do not live in an perfectly even popualtion distribution. Just like spiders do not.

where are the sorces that you have collected this info from?

QI and common sense. In order to take what you said seriously, there has to be exactly one spider for every 8 square feet, no more or less. It's an urban myth.

and considdering that insects of all kinds(including arachnids)have the highest population of any other known living thing in this world,spiders could be at an area every 8 feet.

1) Arachnids are not insects 2) there are still places they cannot live in 3) "could" =/= "is"