Retro gaming thread

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

So next month i check out some retro gaming stores so which consoles you think are worth to get?Ps2 can play one games and there are also ps3 models which can play ps2 games.Sega mega drive,gamecube,nintendo wii/wiiu,n64 and snes.Which one or more would be worth getting in your opinion

[blackedz26]

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This is only about the backwards compatible PS3. Keep up. Hell the N64 you can damn near throw it out a window and it's still work. Lol

Yeah, that's true for a lot of 90s stuff and before, isn't it?

Save for things like the yugo 🤣

[Dracoco OwO]

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Yep that’s true i also never had any issues with my retro consoles they work like on their first day

This is only about the backwards compatible PS3. Keep up. Hell the N64 you can damn near throw it out a window and it's still work. Lol

True the N64 can't die.

[Arnie Rimsy BSc.SSc.]

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I already have a ps4 pro where you could do it as well.But consoles can work your whole life if you take care of them a buddy of mine never had issues

That's not how electronics work. Keep living in that fantasy world.

You need a paddling

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

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That's not how electronics work. Keep living in that fantasy world.

Wait, I'm confused. If you take care of your electronics, and replace parts as needed (the Cmos battery for example), they do keep working. Same with cars.

Playstation already fixed that with a patch that games still work on the Ps4 don’t know about previous models but everything is fixable….it was only because games are tied to trophies

[Masque]

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Collecting the physical systems only is the way to go, cheapskate ;)

only if it was not that expensive I'd agree ... but since it's a game forum we can't talk about the alternative and vile way of playing old games.

but seriously , I wish they had some kind of univeral and official console that could just have all of the Retro games released on it ... but that is daydreaming and won't happen.

It always comes down to licensing and rights. This is the reason they will never release an easy NES cartridge with all 930+ games on it, even though it would be incredibly simple to do, from a technical standpoint. There are too many companies and persons who own the rights to all of those games to ever get permission from, secure contracts, pay royalties to, etc. Heck, more than half of those publishers don't exist any more, and chances are quite a few of their copyright owners are probably dead, too. And this is why Nintendo (for example) can't simply just release the Whole Entire Collection for any of their consoles. The legal logistics would be nigh unto impossible.

[R-]

ps4

[RRW359]

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and there are also ps3 models which can play ps2 games.

Not really.

A couple of models did, in theory, but they were very prone to YLOD so I dunno how many are still around, and there was a pretty extensive list of games it didn't work on anyway. And the official lists aren't even as comprehensive as they should be (eg, Tales of the Abyss has a glitch on BC PS3 that makes progress past roughly 7 hours impossible, but since it actually boots, they didn't count it).

It's better not to count on this.

Admittedly I don't have Tales of the Abyss but the *PS1/2 games I've tried work. I haven't had a YLOD yet but from what I've heard it's mainly an overheating problem so I just have an external fan on when using it. The only real issue asside from the YLOD is how expensive the **origonal model is.

*All models can play PS1 games but I had a Slim at one point and it didn't work with ID4 despite it working on my PS2. I have an original one now and it works on it, so I'm guessing having a built-in PS2 works better than the emulation later models use.

**When it comes to PS2 compatibility there are 3 types of PS3 (the Slim and SS both count as the third type). There's the original which has a PS2 built in and works with more-or-less all games even if it's fully patched. Then there's the later models that only have some PS2 hardware and partially rely on emulation; Apparently they barely worked with PS2 games in the first place and were eventually patched not to work with them at all. Then there's the latest models that don't work with any PS2 games and never did.

[Devsman]

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PS2 were still largely level-based, and even had a noteworthy quantity of games that had strafe mapped to shoulder buttons. Both of which are decidedly retro.

Maybe the PS2 gen itself is one fuzzy barrier between retro and modern, lol.

Maybe, but I would probably give that title to the PS1 N64 generation. They were clearly different from the 2d focused previous generations, and things could also be really weird as developers were trying to figure out how to properly use 3d.
While some PS2 games were a bit more "retro" than others, the modern open-world game was largely figured out in this generation. Just Cause and Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction saw releases on this generation. GTA 1 and 2 were the "retro" games, and with the PS2 came GTA 3, which is basically structured and played the same way as the obviously modern GTA 5. Spider Man games prior to the PS2 were largely arcade inspired affairs, while Spider Man 3 on PS2 was an open-world web-slinging good time, same as the more modern PS4 and PS5 Spider Man game.

Also a good point.

[Devsman]

Honestly, the best Nintendo systems have both Metroid and F-Zero.

NES - ok - Metroid, no F-Zero
SNES - great - 1 Metroid, 1 F-Zero
N64 - ok - No Metroid, 1 F-Zero
Cube - Insane - 2 Metroids, 1 F-Zero
Wii - ok - 2 Metroids and a collection, no F-Zero
Wii U - lol - No Metroid, no F-Zero
Switch - I dunno how well liked this is - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero

It even works for the handhelds

GB - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
GBA - GOAT - 2 Metroid, 2 F-Zero (3 in Japan)
DS - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
3DS - the only anomaly - good - No Metroid, no F-Zero

[Good Night Owl]

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Wait, I'm confused. If you take care of your electronics, and replace parts as needed (the Cmos battery for example), they do keep working. Same with cars.

Playstation already fixed that with a patch that games still work on the Ps4 don’t know about previous models but everything is fixable….it was only because games are tied to trophies

I meant PS3. I think those have them as well. IDK how significant they are for PS3, or if they fixed it for those as well?

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

Good question maybe the updates apply to the pre pre gen as well

[Captain n00by]

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Honestly, the best Nintendo systems have both Metroid and F-Zero.

NES - ok - Metroid, no F-Zero
SNES - great - 1 Metroid, 1 F-Zero
N64 - ok - No Metroid, 1 F-Zero
Cube - Insane - 2 Metroids, 1 F-Zero
Wii - ok - 2 Metroids and a collection, no F-Zero
Wii U - lol - No Metroid, no F-Zero
Switch - I dunno how well liked this is - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero

It even works for the handhelds

GB - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
GBA - GOAT - 2 Metroid, 2 F-Zero (3 in Japan)
DS - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
3DS - the only anomaly - good - No Metroid, no F-Zero

How was the Cube "insane" ?

They sold Rareware like a cheap daughter, made Zelda über cartoony (yes, it looks aesthetic, but it's *not* the OoT remake everyone was hoping for), gave Mario that water pump gimmick, etc.

Cube was ok, but certainly not "insane" - if something was "insane" about it was the fact that it was dead last in sales and was losing 3rd party support left and right. (although it still got more games than the N64 in the end)

Also, NES was pure greatness, especially the Japanese version (FamiCom).

And Wii U had better games than the Wii, which was an overclocked Cube with a gimmick remote controller.

[Dracoco OwO]

Първоначално публикувано от Devsman:

Honestly, the best Nintendo systems have both Metroid and F-Zero.

NES - ok - Metroid, no F-Zero
SNES - great - 1 Metroid, 1 F-Zero
N64 - ok - No Metroid, 1 F-Zero
Cube - Insane - 2 Metroids, 1 F-Zero
Wii - ok - 2 Metroids and a collection, no F-Zero
Wii U - lol - No Metroid, no F-Zero
Switch - I dunno how well liked this is - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero

It even works for the handhelds

GB - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
GBA - GOAT - 2 Metroid, 2 F-Zero (3 in Japan)
DS - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
3DS - the only anomaly - good - No Metroid, no F-Zero

Tbh the DS didn't suck either. I don't think Nintendo ever truelly failed a portable console.

[RRW359]

Първоначално публикувано от Devsman:

Honestly, the best Nintendo systems have both Metroid and F-Zero.

NES - ok - Metroid, no F-Zero
SNES - great - 1 Metroid, 1 F-Zero
N64 - ok - No Metroid, 1 F-Zero
Cube - Insane - 2 Metroids, 1 F-Zero
Wii - ok - 2 Metroids and a collection, no F-Zero
Wii U - lol - No Metroid, no F-Zero
Switch - I dunno how well liked this is - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero

It even works for the handhelds

GB - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
GBA - GOAT - 2 Metroid, 2 F-Zero (3 in Japan)
DS - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
3DS - the only anomaly - good - No Metroid, no F-Zero

How is wii okay but something entirely backwards compatible with the wii is lol?

[Devsman]

Първоначално публикувано от RRW359:

Първоначално публикувано от Devsman:

Honestly, the best Nintendo systems have both Metroid and F-Zero.

NES - ok - Metroid, no F-Zero
SNES - great - 1 Metroid, 1 F-Zero
N64 - ok - No Metroid, 1 F-Zero
Cube - Insane - 2 Metroids, 1 F-Zero
Wii - ok - 2 Metroids and a collection, no F-Zero
Wii U - lol - No Metroid, no F-Zero
Switch - I dunno how well liked this is - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero

It even works for the handhelds

GB - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
GBA - GOAT - 2 Metroid, 2 F-Zero (3 in Japan)
DS - ok - 1 Metroid, no F-Zero
3DS - the only anomaly - good - No Metroid, no F-Zero

How is wii okay but something entirely backwards compatible with the wii is lol?

Weren't you paying attention? If I were counting BC, it would have had 2 Metroids and a collection.