"Influencer" Retro Gamers are are feral trash. Pure scum. All of them.

[hypercybermegatron]

They've killed the hobby for a lot of people quite honestly, including me. There were always rare and collectable physical games that were valuable, but now game collecting has turned into a trading and profit driven endeavour where these "influencers" accumulate so many games they have no interest in playing but line them up as trophies like the heads of taxidermy bears for their pathetic YouTube videos, and do the whole e-begging grift, and signal that "oh, well I don't have this game" as a dog whistle for viewers to send them rare games.

Silver lining is it's a positive because I spend more time doing other hobbies and being outdoors. But anyone who sits in front of a camera with their physical game collection behind them flaunting there game collection like an idiot and e-begging like crazy and presenting this to everyone like it's some kind of real job lives a lowly form of human existence.

Further, I've seen this following trend. I'm gonna be blasted for this but I have to get it off my chest.

There's also a trend of "Influencer" retro gamers who get their well endowed girlfriend to get in front of the camera in scantly clad attire who know nothing about games but perk their jugs so that their cleavage is the centre of gravity for the video while they pout their lips and talk about old games they've obviously never played and have no interest in, and this is the shtick of their channel.

I hope people who would class themselves as humble collectors who have a meaningful collection aren't priced out by the tactics that these "Influencers" engage in. I don't think I'd sell my collection, I don't have much in the grand scheme of things, but what I do have is something that means something to me rather than trying to get every single game for every console. There is a point where a hobby becomes an obscene illness and I think "Retro" these days is a cursed word and the "Influnecer" behaviour is like some kind of sick gambling addiction.

[Devsman]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Xero_Daxter:

This is an unpopular opinion but I don't see the hype for retro games. They're alright and I would still play them but they're nothing special. They're just not my cup of tea.

And that's ok. Everyone has different interests. I can understand why somebody wouldn't have much interest in them, especially if they weren't there the first time around.

Because really that's part of it--having been around when they were new. Not nostalgia exactly, since it applies to retro games we've never played before as well. But it's more just, having been there, we have an experiential appreciation for the context. Both in terms of what was cutting edge and what limitations there were. Both of these things can be cool to experience even decades later.

For example, in Mickey Mania for SNES, there was this thin tower in one of the last levels, and you had to climb up some scaffolding around the outside. The game simulated the camera spinning around the castle and staying centered on Mickey by actually rotating the tower. Thing is, the rotation of the tower was remarkably fluid. I'm still not really sure how they pulled it off--whether it was some absurd Super FX voodoo or whether they actually pre-rendered several frames of rotation. Or what.

Here's a video:

https://youtu.be/Bs96gvDFes4

Funny thing is, I actually happened to see the thumbnail for a video explaining this effect while I looked for this video. Maybe I'll watch that later.

[Apexnexius]

Ursprungligen skrivet av hypercybermegatron:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Apexnexius:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPTBH8xXAwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYehG4g89oM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9lee98fEqA
Are you hating because women are now finally getting into the hobby ?
Chill out it's just videogames
Women can join the hobby too

Bonus Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOonDY8vCJU

MetalJesusRocks's gaming room
(he is currently the best gamer collector out there)

Enjoy playing Retro Games hypercybermegatron
No need for aggression

I can sympathise with your point here, but that's not what I'm saying at all. It's great there's better representation of women in gaming and playing games, I'm all for it and there should be more. But my point was very specific, when they're used as props just for clicks, I think that's going in the wrong direction.

The frustration and hate in your topic title tells a lot. You need to look at this from new different perspectives.
Many of the users in this thread have some good valid points. See if you can adhere to the advice and perspectives given.

You need to work on a better balance in your life.
The seething words that you display here for all of us to see is not healthy at all.
Also if you want to collect old digital games these days I suggest looking into getting a better salary/another job. Life is not fair. It sucks that the games we grew up with have gotten so expensive. But all the hate you display is unwarranted.

Peace

[hypercybermegatron]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Apexnexius:

Ursprungligen skrivet av hypercybermegatron:

I can sympathise with your point here, but that's not what I'm saying at all. It's great there's better representation of women in gaming and playing games, I'm all for it and there should be more. But my point was very specific, when they're used as props just for clicks, I think that's going in the wrong direction.

The frustration and hate in your topic title tells a lot. You need to look at this from new different perspectives.
Many of the users in this thread have some good valid points. See if you can adhere to the advice and perspectives given.

You need to work on a better balance in your life.
The seething words that you display here for all of us to see is not healthy at all.
Also if you want to collect old digital games these days I suggest looking into getting a better salary/another job. Life is not fair. It sucks that the games we grew up with have gotten so expensive. But all the hate you display is unwarranted.

Peace

lol I'm happy with my collection, I'm proud that I didn't need to do any grifting or e-begging to get what I have. I saved a lot of money buying broken consoles people had written off and fixing them. Title has been self moderated to meet forum guidelines otherwise it would have contained choice expletives to describe this scourge. Cathartic, as unpleasant as it may be.

Work is good and life is comfortable, lot's of assumptions baked into your comment. Most people have competing hobbies and interests, weighing up these it's just not worth my money buying classic console games because I know that there's a lucrative market for flipping these and if I just went and paid whatever was on the price tag I'd be feeding the beast. If everyone did what you say prices would skyrocket and be a lot worse.

I would rather put this money towards something like a holiday to an interesting place or something creative that involves making something. You are short sighted, you don't see the bigger picture here because your'e blinded by your own ignorance. It's ignorant to say just get more money and buy what you want, that's how prices get inflated.

And you have to understand that it's not a good thing if people have a genuine interest in the hobby of collecting old games they just get priced out without having a chance to enjoy them in their original glory, but these games get gobbled up by people with no interest in playing them flipping them or for bragging rights on their YouTube shelf displays. How is this good for gaming?

You may not like my dark perspective or odious words however they come from a place of truth.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Two issues at hand here....

1) Influencers are trash, on that we agree...

2) Game collecting is a thing and as many people who age and populations increase the physical games of old which required no DRM beyond the physical components are highly desirable, thats just the way the world works, supply and demand

[hypercybermegatron]

Ursprungligen skrivet av DRUNK_CANADIAN:

Two issues at hand here....

1) Influencers are trash, on that we agree...

2) Game collecting is a thing and as many people who age and populations increase the physical games of old which required no DRM beyond the physical components are highly desirable, thats just the way the world works, supply and demand

1) Agree
2) Agree, these are important factors. Which is why there should be pushback against practices which artificially inflate prices on top of the value naturally increasing over time for the reasons you mentioned.

[Apexnexius]

Ursprungligen skrivet av hypercybermegatron:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Apexnexius:

The frustration and hate in your topic title tells a lot. You need to look at this from new different perspectives.
Many of the users in this thread have some good valid points. See if you can adhere to the advice and perspectives given.

You need to work on a better balance in your life.
The seething words that you display here for all of us to see is not healthy at all.
Also if you want to collect old digital games these days I suggest looking into getting a better salary/another job. Life is not fair. It sucks that the games we grew up with have gotten so expensive. But all the hate you display is unwarranted.

Peace

lol I'm happy with my collection, I'm proud that I didn't need to do any grifting or e-begging to get what I have. I saved a lot of money buying broken consoles people had written off and fixing them. Title has been self moderated to meet forum guidelines otherwise it would have contained choice expletives to describe this scourge. Cathartic, as unpleasant as it may be.

Work is good and life is comfortable, lot's of assumptions baked into your comment. Most people have competing hobbies and interests, weighing up these it's just not worth my money buying classic console games because I know that there's a lucrative market for flipping these and if I just went and paid whatever was on the price tag I'd be feeding the beast. If everyone did what you say prices would skyrocket and be a lot worse.

I would rather put this money towards something like a holiday to an interesting place or something creative that involves making something. You are short sighted, you don't see the bigger picture here because your'e blinded by your own ignorance. It's ignorant to say just get more money and buy what you want, that's how prices get inflated.

And you have to understand that it's not a good thing if people have a genuine interest in the hobby of collecting old games they just get priced out without having a chance to enjoy them in their original glory, but these games get gobbled up by people with no interest in playing them flipping them or for bragging rights on their YouTube shelf displays. How is this good for gaming?

You may not like my dark perspective or odious words however they come from a place of truth.

HEY BUSTER !!1

I'm trying to get into an argument with you !
Stop being so adequately passive and reasonable.

Let's spice things up a bit here. Right now I'm the big bully who have just noticed your lunch money. Get the picture !!? Grab one of my fallacies and push back. I know you can do this.

[EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ]

Ursprungligen skrivet av bad:

hate the ppl who watch them, dont hate them for their easy way to make money

Bait = Easy money.
Best Solution: Cool story compadre, chap. Tell it again.
Good solution : Haha o wow, you don't say.
Dumb Solution: Click.