Is it wrong that I don't decorate for christmas or buy presents?

[Getmegreek]

Personally, I feel like Christmas is a holiday where the society is emotionally forced to spend their work bonus & money savings to squeeze out the dollars to others.

I don't know . . .

[funewchie]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av ☎need4naiim☎:

It is about Jesus Christ

NOPE. It is a Winter Solstice celebration. The Christian church stole it. Long past time to take it all the way back to it's roots.

True.

It was 3 festivals in one:
The 2 week Saturnalia, a festival to Saturn, Roman god of agriculture.

Dec 25, a few days after the winter solstice, the Natalis Sol Invicti, "Birthday of the Invincible Sun" (as sun worship was big in Rome), honoring the return of the sun.

And finally ending on the new year with the festival to Janus, Roman god of beginnings ( and where the month of January gets its name).

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But then in the 4th century, the Christian church adopted these festivals to attract pagans.
Even though Biblical scholars suspect Christ was likely born in the early autumn, maybe October.

Personally one reason why I don't bother with the holiday, but I don't mind people having their fun.

[☎need4naiim☎]

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Different name, different meaning, what makes these the same holiday again?

"The Pagan celebration of Winter Solstice (also known as Yule) is one of the oldest winter celebrations in the world."
There was always a celebration at about December 25th. It was never called Christmas. The Romans called it Saturnalia. The new Christian church could not stop the "pagan" celebrations so they started saying that is was for their Jesus. Who was actually born in the spring.

How do you know Jesus was born in Spring while not believing in him nor the Religion he brought?

[Out Of Bubblegum]

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"The Pagan celebration of Winter Solstice (also known as Yule) is one of the oldest winter celebrations in the world."
There was always a celebration at about December 25th. It was never called Christmas. The Romans called it Saturnalia. The new Christian church could not stop the "pagan" celebrations so they started saying that is was for their Jesus. Who was actually born in the spring.

How do you know Jesus was born in Spring while not believing in him nor the Religion he brought?

It was definitely not on December 25. But Funwchie says in the Autumn. Could be. I don't care to keep up with the theories. That is what the historians say. Even the church based ones. Your book does not say exactly when.

"by Matt Slick | Oct 23, 2014 | Jesus, Questions. No one knows for sure what was the month–not to mention which day–on which Jesus was born. Various theories have been raised that put Jesus' birth in March, April, October, and September. But no one knows for sure. December 25 was a popular pagan holiday that dealt with the winter solstice which was the shortest day of the year and signaled the approach of spring."

"While there is no mention of the birthdate in the gospels or in historical documents, most biblical scholars assume that the year of Jesus’ birth was between 6 and 4 BC."

Found this. Looks like fall is correct and not spring. Maybe.
https://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/when-was-jesus-born

[Out Of Bubblegum]

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OP asked about Christmas and decorating for it. If they knew about the older holiday that might have led to a different kind of question.
And I'm almost certain people decorated for that too.

Correct The tree is from the older pagan celebration.

[☎need4naiim☎]

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OP asked about Christmas and decorating for it. If they knew about the older holiday that might have led to a different kind of question.
And I'm almost certain people decorated for that too.

Correct The tree is from the older pagan celebration.

Tree?

Is it forbidden to use X thing (as common as a tree) during a celebration just because some other ancient people used them too?

[L1qu1dator]

Yes, it's very wrong! You're opposing the consumerism!

[Out Of Bubblegum]

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Correct The tree is from the older pagan celebration.

Tree?
Is it forbidden to use X thing (as common as a tree) during a celebration just because some other ancient people used them too?

I have read about some Christian leaders criticizing putting up a tree. Because it has nothing to do with CHRISTmas and is what the pagans did. And "I" never said it was wrong at all. Just that it is from the pagan times and not a Christian decoration. All I said was that the ancients had a tree.

[GalerianXD1]

I don't bother with decorations or a tree. I will get some gifts for people that are important to me and stuff my face with food though.

[Devsman]

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"The Pagan celebration of Winter Solstice (also known as Yule) is one of the oldest winter celebrations in the world."
There was always a celebration at about December 25th. It was never called Christmas. The Romans called it Saturnalia. The new Christian church could not stop the "pagan" celebrations so they started saying that is was for their Jesus. Who was actually born in the spring.

How do you know Jesus was born in Spring while not believing in him nor the Religion he brought?

The justification I heard for the Spring theory was kinda funny bad. Mary and Joseph had to travel to Bethlehem because of a census. And of course, the census happens on April 1st.

*facepalm*

Might not be the only reason people think that, but it's the only one I've heard.

[Grendalcat]

OP, no it is not wrong that you don't decorate or buy gifts. You are free to celebrate Christmas any way you wish, including completely ignoring it.

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I give gifts to family and friends but never get any in return.

[Sheepy]

one word bahumbug? OP is OP The grinch?

[Getmegreek]

My wife said that I’m the grinch lol

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one word bahumbug? OP is OP The grinch?

[Sheepy]

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My wife said that I’m the grinch lol

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one word bahumbug? OP is OP The grinch?

lol

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

I decorate, cause I have always loved the cheery feeling around mid winter. I buy a few gifts because I like making close people smile. Plus I really like holiday specials and I actually sing Christmas songs most of the year.