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Allies and Enemies
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sometimes your friends turn out to be your worst enemies

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It’s not hard to make an enemy - all you have to do is wound someone’s pride. People adore those who make them feel special. Decades have passed, yet this elusive wisdom still slips through my fingers
If I were president, I would stop being allies with Israel (and several other countries probably also) and then invite the foreign minster of Iran, Abbas Araghchi, to the White House, and Nicolas Maduro the Venezuelan President. I would then lift sanctions on Cuba, Venezuela, many Middle East countries, etc. Not Russia though probably.

I will raise taxes on the rich and cut the military black budget and also spill the beans about the aliens. I would supply Hamas with 10 billion dollars worth of military aid and put a blockade around Israel. I would then also give the Myanmar rebels *1 million dollars*.

I will try to give at least 500 billion dollars worth of aid to Sudan, and Middle Eastern nations. I will stop the illegal war on terror and push for nation wide decriminalization of all drugs. I will do executive orders targeting the police and clamping down on their brutality and war on poverty, then support police brutality legislation.

I will buy Zelensky a private jet and season tickets for whatever American pro sports teams he wants etc. Also, I'd give Ukraine a space shuttle. I wouldn't doubt it if Trump would help set up a face to face between Zelensky and Putin only to help Putin assassinate him. I wouldn't put it past Trump to do that, as long as his blackmail golden showers tape isn't exposed or his rape of the 13 year old with Epstein isn't exposed.

Honestly though, not joking about Trump being Putin's favorite little biznatch eh?

As your president, I will assassinate Rodrigo Duterte with a drone strike. I will also drone strike Netanyahu, the Israeli defense secretary, along with many members of the Knesset.
Last edited by Disgruntled Cuttlefish; Aug 19 @ 2:02am
Originally posted by Beltneck:
Originally posted by Disgruntled Cuttlefish:
If I were president, I would stop being allies with Israel (and several other countries probably also) and then invite the foreign minster of Iran, Abbas Araghchi, to the White House, and Nicolas Maduro the Venezuelan President. I would then lift sanctions on Cuba, Venezuela, many Middle East countries, etc. Not Russia though probably.

I will raise taxes on the rich and cut the military black budget and also spill the beans about the aliens. I would supply Hamas with 10 billion dollars worth of military aid and put a blockade around Israel. I would then also give the Myanmar rebels *1 million dollars*.

I will try to give at least 500 billion dollars worth of aid to Sudan, and Middle Eastern nations. I will stop the illegal war on terror and push for nation wide decriminalization of all drugs. I will do executive orders targeting the police and clamping down on their brutality and war on poverty, then support police brutality legislation.

I will buy Zelensky a private jet and season tickets for whatever American pro sports teams he wants etc. Also, I'd give Ukraine a space shuttle. I wouldn't doubt it if Trump would help set up a face to face between Zelensky and Putin only to help Putin assassinate him. I wouldn't put it past Trump to do that, as long as his blackmail golden showers tape isn't exposed or his rape of the 13 year old with Epstein isn't exposed.

Honestly though, not joking about Trump being Putin's favorite little biznatch eh?

As your president, I will assassinate Rodrigo Duterte with a drone strike. I will also drone strike Netanyahu, the Israeli defense secretary, along with many members of the Knesset.

And if you were president, you would find out why nobody does that.

Not much point trying to negotiate with people who think they are ordained by god to smite the infidels.

Nobody does these things because they are evil sellout bastards who want to serve rich people, commit and enable genocide, etc.

USA is guilty of genocide, actually under intl law those who enable genocide are equally guilty of it even if they don't necessarily take direct part in it. When in fact USA took direct part in Israeli genocide when USA sent US air force teams and other personnel to help do air strikes on civilians in Gaza.

Obviously I was joking about some of what I said. But some of what I stated, to whatever extent I'm serious about.
Last edited by Disgruntled Cuttlefish; Aug 19 @ 2:14am
Rodrigo Duterte - lovable guy who threw people out of helicopters, murdered tons of people extrajudicially, not to mention judicially ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over so many people. War on drugs extremist who is a mass murderer.

Israel - lovable nation that isn't committing genocide, I swear. Murdering starving children waiting in a queue to get the little food Israel lets in, starving people on purpose, destroying hospitals and lying about justification for their blatant war crimes, etc.

Venezuela - wasn't totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over by USA by having its oil industry sabotaged because of nationalizing oil and they didn't bow down to US interests and wanted to, get this, try to reap the rewards of their own natural resources instead of giving it away to Americans.

Anyway, there is nothing wrong with lifting sanctions on many countries that the USA has levied sanctions against. It's wrong, and most Americans or others who want to justify it have no clue and are vile cruel people.

Originally posted by Beltneck:
Originally posted by Disgruntled Cuttlefish:

Nobody does these things because they are evil sellout bastards who want to serve rich people, commit and enable genocide, etc.

Have you never seen or read anything about how muslims treat each other throughout the middle east?

Your ideals won't work on them.

They would welcome my ideals above and beyond many of those that other Americans or western Europeans have.

Anyway, my ideals "won't work on them". Sure, some Middle Eastern countries are just prostitutes for the west and Israel and are sellouts.
Last edited by Disgruntled Cuttlefish; Aug 19 @ 2:21am
Think calmly before you escalate things to such a degree. "Enemies" is a very strong word. I'd only use it when someone is actively seeking to harm or take advantage of someone.

Majority of behaviours are cope and defence mechanisms at play to protect one's hurt self. It could show as anger, hostility, cold shoulder, or any bizarre behaviour. This doesn't mean that the person secretly wish that you'd unalive, or choke on some food. It just means that they are hurt, and they would do or say something to protect themselves from further hurt, which could in turn hurt you.
Or, they could do or say something to hurt you directly and "even the field out". Cuz tit-for-tat, why not?

Sometimes you might not even know what you did or say to hurt someone. Emotional intelligence isn't everyone's strongest suit.

Why is it so difficult for people (including me) to say - "Hey, I feel hurt. You said or did this, and I don't like it. I have been feeling so-and-so all this time. Wanna talk about it?"



Originally posted by Static_ghost:
It’s not hard to make an enemy - all you have to do is wound someone’s pride. People adore those who make them feel special. Decades have passed, yet this elusive wisdom still slips through my fingers
Yes, but one needs to do it carefully. Too much and it comes off as insincere.

Like for example, if I know the thing that I just did is worth $1, but this person gave me a compliment worth $100. It would mean 2 things -
1. They have poor judgement of character.
2. What tf do they actually want from me? Why not ask straight up? Why with this roundabout way? Shady.
Last edited by 4YourSake; Aug 19 @ 2:22am
Originally posted by Beltneck:
Originally posted by Disgruntled Cuttlefish:

They would welcome my ideals above and beyond many of those that other Americans or western Europeans have.

Anyway, my ideals "won't work on them". Sure, some Middle Eastern countries are just prostitutes for the west and Israel and are sellouts.

Nah, its more like you'll have to get them to abandon a demonstrably violent religious theocracy that has dominated the political sphere for centuries there.

That's an entirely misleading framing and oversimplification of a lot of history. Ridiculous.

When in fact most of the instability and violence is a direct result of western imperialist, American, and Israeli instigation.

Either way, labeling current events and current policies lazily by mentioning history going back so far that isn't even relevant, is a distraction in and of itself. It's misleading anyway and not even connected to most of the current situations that exist.

Anyway, a lot of the Middle East isn't as extreme as you're implying. Either way, it's a distraction away from imperialist western powers ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the entire region.

For example Iran didn't actually have a big problem with Israel at first, they only did after Israel started to exert violent western interests with impunity starting as early as the 1950s.

The US (and subsequently Israel) has done more harm to the Middle East than Middle Eastern powers have in recent memory.

Anyway, sure, I don't like many aspects and policies of Middle Eastern countries. That doesn't mean lifting sanctions against them is a negative thing.

Did you want to distract away from what I said about that so far? I guess so. And you randomly bring up religious theocracy etc to distract away from what I said I would do from the perspective of the US presidency or whatever.
Last edited by Disgruntled Cuttlefish; Aug 19 @ 2:28am
c Z p Aug 19 @ 2:30am 
Originally posted by Disgruntled Cuttlefish:
Sure, some Middle Eastern countries are just prostitutes for the west and Israel and are sellouts.
The Muslim Brothers is about to be branded as international terrorist organization, so I don't know what you're on about.
I see now that it's pointless mostly to respond to anyone if they're just gonna deny reality and have a warped, brainwashed, murderous vision of it instead.

Originally posted by Beltneck:
Originally posted by Disgruntled Cuttlefish:

That's an entirely misleading framing and oversimplification of a lot of history. Ridiculous.

When in fact most of the instability and violence is a direct result of western imperialist, American, and Israeli instigation.

Defending your own country isn't imperialism. Hamas are terrorists who hide behind civilians, and refuse to fight in accordance with the Geneva Convention. Well guess what? that means they aren't protected by the Convention either. They only want to fight dirty, they have never accepted peace after decades of clearly being the losers of a war.

Again, you don't negotiate with rabid dogs. You just put them down.

You're jumping the gun and only responding to part of my post, nice. Now respond to the rest of it that I edited in.

Anyway, your narrative is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lie.

You even sound genocidal, murderous. That's in line with Israel and USA's policies.


Originally posted by c Z p:
Originally posted by Disgruntled Cuttlefish:
Sure, some Middle Eastern countries are just prostitutes for the west and Israel and are sellouts.
The Muslim Brothers is about to be branded as international terrorist organization, so I don't know what you're on about.

Uh.... ok?

What?

"The Muslim Brotherhood" you mean? That's only certain countries first off. Second, sure, some of the sellout western prostitute Arab "Kingdoms" designated them as terrorists. Some other countries in the Middle East did not, most did not, and many are allies with them or sympathetic to some extent. Oh ok.

Otherwise, I was discussing the Middle East as a whole. You're only referring to one specific group but ok.

The head chopper Saudis, the west's best friend in the Arab world. What they designate as terrorists I really ought to value? Some of the same ones that are designated as terrorists by USA.

Ironic considering USA are the biggest terrorists on the planet.
Last edited by Disgruntled Cuttlefish; Aug 19 @ 2:38am
only one person understood i'm talking on a more personal level here, not politics. Who do you spend your time with? how do you feel about them? do you feel like you are honest with eachother? those personal realtionships mean a lot and you should think about them more.
Everyone remember when in the 1990s USA levied sanction on Iraq that resulted in, at one point only one X-ray machine in the entire country.

Oh, most Americans and other mindless allies do not and have no clue about it, or usually will just deny whatever about it anyway.

UNICEF put out a thorough report done with due diligence stating that half a million children died in Iraq in the 90s than should have normally due to an artificially caused healthcare crisis with embargoes and sanctions.

Politics is about denial. One "side" on an issue denies reality, the other doesn't feel the need to.

Originally posted by Beltneck:
Originally posted by Disgruntled Cuttlefish:

You're jumping the gun and only responding to part of my post, nice. Now respond to the rest of it that I edited in.

Anyway, your narrative is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lie.

You even sound genocidal, murderous. That's in line with Israel and USA's policies.

I'm all for proportional response.

Hamas has sabotaged the peace process every single time throughout its entire history. Hamas is well documented dressing as civilians, while conducting military operations - which is a violation of the Geneva Convention, and the reason they cannot benefit from it.

They are the ones who have chosen to make things this way. If they would fight like any other regular force, they would benefit from all the same international protections. But they willingly, and knowingly, refuse to do that.

I'm all for you going back and fully responding to my posts and editing some of your own etc. If you wanna be lazy go ahead, but I know you have little substance so you will do what you do and ignore most of my posts that I edit in more with. It'd be difficult for you to actually address much of what I did, instead your responses are mostly just vague BS trying to justify war crimes that Israel or USA does.
Last edited by Disgruntled Cuttlefish; Aug 19 @ 2:46am
Politics is about denial. One "side" on an issue denies reality, the other doesn't feel the need to.

Again, cool dude. Jump the gun to avoid responding to more.

You can rapidly respond step by step without responding to 90% of what I actually address, you have all the time in the world to put together a large post or response yet you need to resort to that in order to avoid responding to so much of what I bring up anyway, nice. LOL.

Omit much. Omit that most of the people Israel are killing are civilians. Omit that Hamas are not the boogeymen western and Israeli media portray it as. Omit that Israel have admitted on their own media etc to murdering Palestinian civilians on purpose routinely, constantly, and most of their population supports it.

Omit that most Israelis support their government and military murdering children. And that Israeli officials have suggested openly that there are "no civilians" in Gaza and other genocidal remarks, remarks which were used as evidence for genocide intent at the ICJ or whatever.

Yeah, Israel are the "good guys", where most of their population supports their government committing genocide.
Last edited by Disgruntled Cuttlefish; Aug 19 @ 2:52am
lol Aug 19 @ 2:52am 
Wikipedia literally says hamas was funded early on by israel...
lol Aug 19 @ 2:52am 
People still believe in 'bad guys good guys' lol
I rather have a real enemy than a fake friend.
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