Windows is better than Linux

Electric Cupcake 17/set./2022 às 16:39

Escrito originalmente por Ulfrinn:
Escrito originalmente por Electric Cupcake:

There's multiple GOG game launchers in the Flathub already, though they haven't always played nice with the Steam Deck's folders.

Heroic launcher is the one I always hear about for GoG and Epic. But Epic doesn't have anything I want and GoG games are DRM free so I can install them directly without the launcher so I've never had to use a third party launcher yet.

Heroic doesn't do anything with Epic unless you link your account when setting up.

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kilésengati 17/set./2022 às 16:44

Escrito originalmente por Ulfrinn:
Escrito originalmente por kilésengati:

I find configuration of a bottle through PlayOnLinux a bit easier than through Lutris, if a script for Lutris doesn't exist. Otherwise, almost all of my GOG Games and many disc games run fine on Lutris. I haven't really grasped what's up with Lutris and emulators though. It's just a shame the latest GOG Galaxy isn't native to Linux and is such a hog for me when running through WINE. I've got the GOG version of Cyberpunk 2077 and it runs well through WINE, but updating it through Lutris is simply a pain in the arse.

That stuff will natively be on Linux soon enough. It'd be very foolish for GoG to ignore the market as the Linux community grows exponentially. There's nothing blocking a GoG launcher from being installed on a Steam Deck either. It's just a matter of time.

Some parts of the Linux community were quite toxic when it came to the Linux version of Witcher 2. iirc, CDP/R hasn't done anything Linux related since but doing some minor work to make their games work with the Steam Deck. Yes, it would be foolish to not make GoG Galaxy run on Linux and let it have something like Proton, but it was also foolish to release CP77 as a finished game.
To be fair, GOG has been spun off from CDP, so there is hope.

Escrito originalmente por Electric Cupcake:
Escrito originalmente por Ulfrinn:

That stuff will natively be on Linux soon enough. It'd be very foolish for GoG to ignore the market as the Linux community grows exponentially. There's nothing blocking a GoG launcher from being installed on a Steam Deck either. It's just a matter of time.

There's multiple GOG game launchers in the Flathub already, though they haven't always played nice with the Steam Deck's folders.

Right, but I'd be more comfortable having something official.

Última edição por kilésengati; 17/set./2022 às 16:46

#152

Adversary 17/set./2022 às 16:52

Escrito originalmente por Kayhan:
Why do people bother with Linux, no program supports that anyway.

You mean outside of privacy and control, two things you don't get much of from Microsoft or any from Apple?

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trousers 17/set./2022 às 17:12

Why does everyone always forget the most important element? Penguins...

#154

kilésengati 18/set./2022 às 5:38

Escrito originalmente por Shodan 2.0:
If you actually believe that Linux could replace Windows, you have no idea what you're talking about. The more time passes, the more Windows is too deeply integrated into everything to be replaced, so it's only less likely than ever for Linux to replace Windows.

Are you talking about IoT? That field appears to be contested, but Linux is ahead of Windows. Other than on desktop, which looses ground to smartphones, Windows isn't that popular.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Market_share_by_category

Última edição por kilésengati; 18/set./2022 às 5:42

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Ulfrinn 18/set./2022 às 12:08

Escrito originalmente por Shodan 2.0:
If you actually believe that Linux could replace Windows, you have no idea what you're talking about. The more time passes, the more Windows is too deeply integrated into everything to be replaced, so it's only less likely than ever for Linux to replace Windows, not more likely. Too many things depend on Windows now.

You are about 180 degrees in the wrong direction on that one. Around the XP and even Windows 7 era Windows had a MUCH stronger hold on the market than it does now. Windows hasn't had this loose of a grip on the desktop computer market since the pre-95 era.

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Der tüddelige Fußgänger 18/set./2022 às 12:10

Escrito originalmente por Ulfrinn:
Escrito originalmente por Shodan 2.0:
If you actually believe that Linux could replace Windows, you have no idea what you're talking about. The more time passes, the more Windows is too deeply integrated into everything to be replaced, so it's only less likely than ever for Linux to replace Windows, not more likely. Too many things depend on Windows now.

You are about 180 degrees in the wrong direction on that one. Around the XP and even Windows 7 era Windows had a MUCH stronger hold on the market than it does now. Windows hasn't had this loose of a grip on the desktop computer market since the pre-95 era.

Sure GNU/Linux gained new users over that time, but wasn't it mainly Apple who gained a lot of popularity with their Macbooks?

Última edição por Der tüddelige Fußgänger; 18/set./2022 às 12:10

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Devsman 18/set./2022 às 12:18

Escrito originalmente por Fajita Jim:
I just wish we had a decent mobile OS. Android and IOS are basically the same PoS.

I regularly put my phone down not because I'm done using it but because I'm disgusted with how dang hard it is to use.

The input issue is one thing but the bigger problem is websites that cut features from the mobile page for no reason or put a banner on it demanding that you download the app for this website you've never heard of and have no intention of ever returning to.

#158

Ulfrinn 18/set./2022 às 16:46

Escrito originalmente por The Xenoblade guy:
Escrito originalmente por Ulfrinn:

You are about 180 degrees in the wrong direction on that one. Around the XP and even Windows 7 era Windows had a MUCH stronger hold on the market than it does now. Windows hasn't had this loose of a grip on the desktop computer market since the pre-95 era.
Sure GNU/Linux gained new users over that time, but wasn't it mainly Apple who gained a lot of popularity with their Macbooks?

Apple has never achieved the level of popularity they had before their company collapsed in the early 90s, which MIcrosoft had to bail them out of so not to face legal problems relating to having a monopoly over the market share. Since then Apple has picked up a little bit, but are nowhere near where they once were. Their phones are their bread and butter now, and Microsoft has tried to enter that market, and failed.

Linux on the other hand has only gone up in popularity. Despite Microsoft and Apple, Linux is more popular now than it has ever been at any point in it's history and it's popularity is already skyrocketing exponentially.

Something else to keep in mind is Android uses the Linux kernel. And Apple uses a kernel that is fairly similar. Microsoft is the odd one out. Gaming and being the default operating system on pre-builts has always been their bread and butter, and that's changing rapidly. They've pretty much already lost that gaming advantage entirely.

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kilésengati 19/set./2022 às 2:11

Escrito originalmente por Ulfrinn:
Escrito originalmente por The Xenoblade guy:
Sure GNU/Linux gained new users over that time, but wasn't it mainly Apple who gained a lot of popularity with their Macbooks?

Apple has never achieved the level of popularity they had before their company collapsed in the early 90s, which MIcrosoft had to bail them out of so not to face legal problems relating to having a monopoly over the market share. Since then Apple has picked up a little bit, but are nowhere near where they once were. Their phones are their bread and butter now, and Microsoft has tried to enter that market, and failed.

Linux on the other hand has only gone up in popularity. Despite Microsoft and Apple, Linux is more popular now than it has ever been at any point in it's history and it's popularity is already skyrocketing exponentially.

Something else to keep in mind is Android uses the Linux kernel. And Apple uses a kernel that is fairly similar. Microsoft is the odd one out. Gaming and being the default operating system on pre-builts has always been their bread and butter, and that's changing rapidly. They've pretty much already lost that gaming advantage entirely.

UhM aCtUaLlY, Darwin is mostly based on BSD and re-licences its FOSS components under a more restrictive licence whilst GNU/Linux is its own thing created out of frustration with restrictive software licenses in the first place. :)

#160

Kayhan 19/set./2022 às 2:13

So basically people are moaning about their privacy regarding Windows, meanwhile they own a Smartphone and own a Steam Account.

Última edição por Kayhan; 19/set./2022 às 2:13

#161

sleeps 19/set./2022 às 2:21

i use linux because customization more than privacy. it's already dead

#162

Ulfrinn 19/set./2022 às 7:26

Customization is definitely top notch on Linux. If you want your desktop to look and feel like Windows? You can do that. If you want it to act like Mac, you can do that. If you want it to work similarly to a smart phone, you can do that. If you want to do something none of these do, like tiling windows, you can also do that.

Then there's package management. Package management is so much better on Linux. I can install things just basically by telling my computer to go find and install it for me. I don't have to do it all myself.

Then there's performance. Many games run better on Linux. I was able to use a custom kernel that is fine tuned for a second gen Ryzen CPU with a scheduler that emphasizes gaming better than you can at windows, giving me more stable, and higher performance in a lot of titles. With Windows you get one kernel, and that kernel is not optimized for anything, since it has to be able to do everything. It's a jack of all trades, but a master of nothing.

The lack of built-in spyware and keyloggers is just icing on that cake.

#163

Kayhan 19/set./2022 às 7:44

I can imagine that if you cannot afford Windows that you would prefer Linux.

#164

kilésengati 19/set./2022 às 7:46

Escrito originalmente por Kayhan:
I can imagine that if you cannot afford Windows that you would prefer Linux. :csgoskull:

The Micro$oft tax is a real thing. Also there's no point in poor-shaming mega-corps for running their servers on Linux and BSD.

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