[SKy]Eagle 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:13
Is Steam gonna do something to contest Epic Games store?
Every 2 days or so Epic releases a free version of a game on Steam, Will steam do something about that? Won't that hurt Steam's market or so?
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:38 
Valve doesn't need to compete with Epic. Epic MUST compete with Valve. Let that sink in for a bit OP.

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why should they do anything?
I'm not familiar with things from a market perspective, just worried that they might kill the steam store and general playerbase.
They've been around for sometime now, if their exclusivity and freebies were doing considerable damage to valve's revenue they probably would've done something by now. Now think about it this way, they don't even have a review system on EGS, probably because they don't want it to reflect on their poor sale figures, especially on non-exclusive titles .
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agu 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:39 
Nope. They might give away some shovelware nobody's ever heard of but that's about it, other than the spend 500 to get a 5 dollar coupon
Naedmi 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:40 
Doesn't seem like it's been doing much to hurt Steam really.

And I'm sure this isn't the first thread asking this question that I've replied to.
x 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:41 
I'd say that egs strategy seems not really agressive, or they're low on money, so they have slow process of development.

In the future (ie 2-10 year) i'd expect valve showing results of improved marketing. Right now we can see this points shop, but i'd consider it as just a s-m size experiment. Interface update is also a good thing.


P.S. It also really depends on data which i don't have
Última edición por x; 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:42
Mad Scientist 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:43 
Do we really need this thread everyday?
No, we don't.

As many people point out, many times:
Steam doesn't need to bribe Developers for Exclusivity; something that a lot of people despise and use to not buy the game when it comes to Steam
Steam doesn't need to bribe users into buying DLC and in-game currency for a game they received for free.
[SKy]Eagle 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:45 
Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:
Do we really need this thread everyday?
No, we don't.

As many people point out, many times:
Steam doesn't need to bribe Developers for Exclusivity; something that a lot of people despise and use to not buy the game when it comes to Steam
Steam doesn't need to bribe users into buying DLC and in-game currency for a game they received for free.
Sorry if you see this post a lot, I was just curious about the facts that I'm seeing mate...
Masque 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:45 
Steam's competitive response will be to continue having forums for each game and even open forums for off topic and hardware, game guides, user screenshots, a workshop for mods, user videos, streaming, chat rooms, user artwork, groups, reviews, curated lists, wishlists, achievements, and a shopping cart.
Última edición por Masque; 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:47
xk 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:46 
Valve doesn't need to do anything because most people only use the Epic store for the free games making it way less profitable. Valve has the virtual video game storefront market near-completely cornered. Epic can make every game on their store free and Steam will still dominate because it has more features, a larger library (that is also better), and it's just what people are used to. The only way the Epic store can overtake Steam is by taking over Valve, which will NEVER happen.
secuda 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:48 
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Sure they would derp.
Derp? What's Derp and who will?
You are working upp over egs freebies, meanwhile steam have been on the market since early 2000.
They dont need a "statement" like freebies yet they added demos for companies to include on steam.
As for me it saves me few bucs and dont complain about it.
Masque 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:49 
EGS vs. Steam is like a small child's first screwdriver vs. the best Leatherman tool.
x 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:51 
Publicado originalmente por 𝕎𝔸𝕃𝕋𝔼ℝ:
Publicado originalmente por SKyEagle:
I'm not familiar with things from a market perspective, just worried that they might kill the steam store and general playerbase.
They've been around for sometime now, if their exclusivity and freebies were doing considerable damage to valve's revenue they probably would've done something by now. Now think about it this way, they don't even have a review system on EGS, probably because they don't want it to reflect on their poor sale figures, especially on non-exclusive titles .


That's obvious that EGS doesn't have same stats as it has a smaller market share/user base/anything related. But I'd assume just that both Valve and EGS make decisions slowly (but EGS is more aggressive as it has to be a rival, valve is the most well-known in its sphere)

I forgot to say, but Valve has VR industry coming on, probably that's their move
gugnihr 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:53 
What could Steam do? It should be illegal to do nothing else except trying to directly damage your competitors like what EGS is doing, there should be laws against that, to punish those who do things like that but apparently nobody cares and they are allowed to have an activity that has no other goal than trying to damage their competitors.
Thankfully it seems that Steam is still doing well (I hope that in the end it will be only those EGS scum who will have just wasted a lot of money), probably because most people already had those games anyway.
I don't think that Steam should do anything about that, giving away free copies of games as convenient as it seems for a custromer is just nonsensical because it is not sustainable.
Steam already give away some free games every now and then, and in my opinion this is even more than what I would expect. There are discounts every day on many games (oviously during holidays there are many more interesting deals, obviously not every game is really interesting even with a discount and usually you can find many meh games on discount and not so many great games, but this is just normal imo this is how every shop has always worked since forever... except in many shops you don't find that many discounts every single day).
EGS is an anomaly, it is not sustainable and it is obvious that they wuold not want to go on like that forever, they just want to damage other stores and they will stop giving away their free crap as soon as the damage is done. I hope that they go bankrupt well before that.
Última edición por gugnihr; 21 DIC 2020 a las 8:54
Mad Scientist 21 DIC 2020 a las 9:02 
Publicado originalmente por SKyEagle:
Publicado originalmente por Mr. Gentlebot:
Do we really need this thread everyday?
No, we don't.

As many people point out, many times:
Steam doesn't need to bribe Developers for Exclusivity; something that a lot of people despise and use to not buy the game when it comes to Steam
Steam doesn't need to bribe users into buying DLC and in-game currency for a game they received for free.
Sorry if you see this post a lot, I was just curious about the facts that I'm seeing mate...
Use the search feature before posting.
Also facts imply truth, if I have nothing but free epic games - like a lot of users, where does that translate into profit for Epic? Do you think they're just going to steal people away from Steam with some old games made free and maybe the occasional decent to good game like GTA V?
And a coupon where you have to purchase more than the coupon is worth for a price I'd get on Steam regardless on a Steam Sale?
How do you think people feel that companies take exclusivity and they have to wait a year or longer to get a game they wanted? They'll more than likely do a hard pass since they chose an up front bribe over paying customers and their happiness to select where to purchase and play from.

There's more functions on Steam and more support for the games, epic has just a store-launcher.

Some people assuming giving stuff away and bribery means they're somehow competitors or that Steam needs to compete/contest them, is the laughable part.
=CrimsoN= 21 DIC 2020 a las 9:02 
Publicado originalmente por gugnihr:
What could Steam do? It should be illegal to do nothing else except trying to directly damage your competitors like what EGS is doing, there should be laws against that, to punish those who do things like that but apparently nobody cares and they are allowed to have an activity that has no other goal than trying to damage their competitors.

I wouldn't say EGS is trying to damage its competitors. Like others stated, EGS is trying to attain market share that Steam/Valve holds near dominion over. But they are going about it the wrong way. EGS isn't doing anything unique to establish a customer base. A couple of freebies and exclusivity aren't going to bring in a huge amount of customers.

Here is a grid of the major launchers in the digital distribution market and it's easy to see why Steam/Valve rule supreme. GOG and the Microsoft Store are bigger competitors to Steam/Valve. EGS are a footnote by comparison.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6a7ec922a632f7f00ba3206d6d4772ff
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