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Alastor's Alibi 2021 年 2 月 12 日 上午 6:53
Are membrane keyboards really that bad for gaming?
Ofc mechanical keyboards are better, but are membrane keyboards (the good ones ofc) absolute trash when it comes to gaming?
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AdahnGorion 2021 年 2 月 13 日 上午 3:58 
Not really. They both have pro/cons

However.. I have found a compromise, with a mechanical keyboard, that does not cost and arm and a leg, but still have good perfections/extra gimmicks and silent key´s (the noise from most mechenical keyboards were my biggest annoyance)
AustrAlien2010 2021 年 2 月 13 日 上午 4:06 
You should have a keyboard with a docking station for a smartphone or tabled, so you can render custom HUD information on it. Display a weapon selection on it, a minimap, inventory, group selection, or drop parts of the menu there, or render a part of the screen on it, or something, anything really. And games should support that.

In fact, you probably don't even need a keyboard for it, you can just create that software right now. If your hardware and games would support it. Maybe you can even use a Switch controller for it.
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Nomad 2021 年 2 月 13 日 上午 4:10 
引用自 AustrAlien2010
You should have a keyboard with a docking station for a smartphone or tabled, so you can render custom HUD information on it. Display a weapon selection on it, a minimap, anything really.
I was gonna buy one like that cause it had really good RGB, I think it was a logitech one but then when I read into it, it used in-house switches so I passed.
esturias 2021 年 2 月 13 日 上午 4:44 
引用自 kyew
No, he has it right. Objectively, mechanical is better. There are numerous studies proving that accuracy is improved and reflex time is faster with mechanical keyboards. Doesn't matter what you like, if you get used to a mechanical keyboard, you'll be faster and more accurate than with a membrane. Do some research on gaming keyboards. Prove it to yourself.
Objectively, you'd judge a product by more than just one single characteristic. You'd also scale your objective findings. That said, how much does the typing accuracy improve in comparison to a comparable (!) menbrane keyboard?

I've used both and I don't see much of an improvement regarding mechanical ones. Not with typing, even less whith gaming (topics around hyped gaming gear are a cringefest anyway). So far I prefer membrane ones, already because of the sound. I find the switch clicks quite annoying, even more when at work. Yes, there are more silent ones, but I'd rather not invest >60€ in a keyboard.
The only thing I'd be interested in, is a comparison of wear/durability and cleaning.
shoopy 2021 年 2 月 13 日 上午 5:31 
Most of the benefit from mech keyboard comes from learning to use one properly. If you constantly bottom out the keys then a lot of the benefit is lost.

Edit: also there isn't necessarily anything wrong with bottoming out, but mech switches give you the option to not bottom out, which can eventually lead to lighter and faster typing.
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Lady of the Lake 2021 年 2 月 13 日 上午 6:15 
I don't know what is membrane keyboard but my keyboard in my old laptop where all keys are connected is very smooth and I love it.
Nomad 2021 年 2 月 13 日 上午 6:17 
引用自 Newborn Spawn
I don't know what is membrane keyboard but my keyboard in my old laptop where all keys are connected is very smooth and I love it.
That would be chiclets, most probably.
MikeBob2013 2021 年 2 月 13 日 上午 7:05 
I gotta have me some of that tactile feedback, otherwise I'm lost. It's just how I'm wired I guess.

KZ_Understanding_the_Rain_000 2021 年 2 月 13 日 下午 12:48 
You need to learn the difference between Subjective and Objective.

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That would technically make membrane keyboards "Objectively" more popular.

Clicky is objectively better than mushy. You're more likely to make a mistake on a mushy feeling membrane keyboard because you have a more difficult time telling if the keystroke has been registered. Like I said, the tactile response of a mechanical switch is hard to beat. You can really feel every keystroke.
Birds 2021 年 2 月 13 日 下午 1:04 
unless you're doing a lot of really high-sensitivity stuff that depends on single keystroke timings you're unlikely to notice a difference.

the plastic on membranes becomes worn through use and exposure to environmental hazards such as noodle cups, beer, flecks of food, water, and dust buildup. over time it either hardens or softens, depending on the composition of the plastic and even sometimes depending on the temperature and humidity that day.

each individual membrane bubble will harden or soften differentially, so every key on your keyboard will wind up becoming slightly different in terms of latency and resistance over time and even depending on the day. but you'll get used to it from constant use.

so unless you play a variety of games where you need to have a variety of different keys half-pressed in anticipation and without fully committing to them you're unlikely to find a scenario where you would really prefer a mechanical keyboard.

otherwise, the unpredictable softness and contact timing of the membranes can become a very noticeable and grating issue when you find yourself running into one or two keys in a sequence which don't always perform in a predictable manner. especially if you play a wide variety of particularly demanding games which often require very different sequences.

however many modern mechanical switches and membrane key/latch combinations have become functionally identical in design, so it becomes more about your preferences in terms of key resistance and clackiness.

mechanicals can have their switches swapped out and so theoretically will last forever as long as the circuit board isn't damaged, but membranes will start failing in one way or another eventually and they may not sell the same size/layout that you like when that time comes.
AustrAlien2010 2021 年 2 月 13 日 下午 1:26 
If you use a microphone, it's somewhat annoying to hear you during a game, when you use a mechanical keyboard. So, you may want to use a normal membrane for gaming, because a microphone often picks up the sound mechanical keyboards make.
But if you are happy with your mechanical keyboard, then you should just use it, I think. But I am not sure if the rest of the players will think it's okay, if you're continually making sounds.
最后由 AustrAlien2010 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 13 日 下午 4:28
kyew 2021 年 2 月 13 日 下午 5:09 
LOL Cite your "studies".
If I were debating the veracity of mechanical vs. membrane, I would take the time to do just that, but since you seem to have completely lost the thread, let me lead you back to it...

Subjective vs. objective. All you need to do is find evidence that supports the hypothesis that mechanical keyboards are physically more advantageous than membrane keyboards and that should prove that you're incorrect.

Unless you're just here to argue and grief, then nothing in this whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ universe will stop you.

And pay attention to the discussion. It's embarrassing for you to think this all about what you want to argue about.
jisei 2021 年 2 月 13 日 下午 5:11 
all i know is that my typing speed/ accuracy decreases on membrane keyboards.
kyew 2021 年 2 月 13 日 下午 5:15 
引用自 Miss Ann Thrope
引用自 kyew
No, he has it right. Objectively, mechanical is better. There are numerous studies proving that accuracy is improved and reflex time is faster with mechanical keyboards. Doesn't matter what you like, if you get used to a mechanical keyboard, you'll be faster and more accurate than with a membrane. Do some research on gaming keyboards. Prove it to yourself.

How does improved typing speed and accuracy help in games?

Not many people are still playing text adventures.
Not typing, but using the directional keys and such. If I recall correctly, the studies focused on how easy it was to find the individual keys, how long it took to press them, how long it took for the actuation to process, etc.

And when I say "faster" I'm talking milliseconds, which wouldn't make a difference to most people outside of professional gamers.

Regardless, the point I was making was in the usage of objective and subjective.
Gus the Crocodile 2021 年 2 月 13 日 下午 5:18 
Very few people are good enough that the marginal difference a keyboard might possibly provide is anything close to a bottleneck in their apparent skill.

People should use whatever's comfortable and convenient for them of course, but if anyone's telling you non-mechanical keyboards are "bad for gaming", they're being ridiculous.
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