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HermitTheToad 2024 年 9 月 23 日 上午 7:38
Both the political Parties are stupid.
The government was never made with the intent to have two political parties, and yet hear we are bickering over which is better.

Today, it may seem impossible to imagine the U.S. government without its two leading political parties, Democrats and Republicans. But in 1787, when delegates to the Constitutional Convention gathered in Philadelphia to hash out the foundations of their new government, they entirely omitted political parties from the new nation’s founding document.

This was no accident. The framers of the new Constitution desperately wanted to avoid the divisions that had ripped England apart in the bloody civil wars of the 17th century. Many of them saw parties—or “factions,” as they called them—as corrupt relics of the monarchical British system that they wanted to discard in favor of a truly representative government.

“It was not that they didn’t think of parties,” says Willard Sterne Randall, professor emeritus of history at Champlain College and biographer of six of the Founding Fathers. “Just the idea of a party brought back bitter memories to some of them.”

George Washington’s family had fled England precisely to avoid the civil wars there, while Alexander Hamilton once called political parties “the most fatal disease” of popular governments. James Madison, who worked with Hamilton to defend the new Constitution to the public in the Federalist Papers, wrote in Federalist 10 that one of the functions of a “well-constructed Union” should be “its tendency to break and control the violence of faction.

When Washington stepped aside as president in 1796, he memorably warned in his farewell address of the divisive influence of factions on the workings of democracy: “The common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.”

The U.S. Constitution does not mention political parties, as the framers aimed to avoid the divisions that had caused turmoil in other nations. They viewed political factions as a necessary evil but hoped that the structure of the government would prevent the dominance of any single party.

America has now become that dreaded divided republic. The existential menace is as foretold, and it is breaking the system of government the Founders put in place with the Constitution.
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NW/RL 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:25 
引用自 CookieClicker :)
引用自 Holografix
you're british
I would sooner take a dip in pitch and light myself on fire than be compelled to say anything even remotely positive about Britain, let alone to claim to be from there.
lmao
Dom 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:29 
引用自 Fuki
Agreed. And conservatives conserve nothing but their own wealth at whatever cost.
I honestly think conservatives would be more open to alternatives to capitalism if woke people and totalitarians didn't leave a taint on the concept..
Well no one knows what they're open to because Trump has taken the party from actual policy to insulting opponents and hating the country saying that it's a third-world nation on its way to become the next Venezuela. That's what happens when the whole party becomes one man's ego trip.
最后由 Dom 编辑于; 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:29
R-S!N 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:29 

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it"
Fuki 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:31 
引用自 Dom
引用自 Fuki
I honestly think conservatives would be more open to alternatives to capitalism if woke people and totalitarians didn't leave a taint on the concept..
Well no one knows what they're open to because Trump has taken the party from actual policy to insulting opponents and hating the country saying that it's a third-world nation on its way to become the next Venezuela. That's what happens when the whole party becomes one man's ego trip.
Democrats don't know the difference between nation and state. The nation is the native community of the state. Real patriots will fight against the state when it deems their politics do not fit the nation.
Dom 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:36 
引用自 Fuki
引用自 Dom
Well no one knows what they're open to because Trump has taken the party from actual policy to insulting opponents and hating the country saying that it's a third-world nation on its way to become the next Venezuela. That's what happens when the whole party becomes one man's ego trip.
Democrats don't know the difference between nation and state. The nation is the native community of the state. Real patriots will fight against the state when it deems their politics do not fit the nation.
Nah.. real patriots will not fight against the state if they don't get their will through.
Real patriots understand that in a democracy you don't always get your will through. A real patriot would stand up for the values that their respective country was founded on. Rather than crying like babies they need to wake up and realize that they need a stronger, more convincing message for the public. January 6th didn't make Trump the president for 2021-, it only caused injuries to over a hundred police officers and even deaths for no reason.
R-S!N 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:39 
There are among us wolves in sheep clothing.

The system has been hijacked(it has been for many years) and corrupted worse than it's ever been. one side is always worse and is more at fault. They'll try to deceive you into thinking otherwise.
HermitTheToad 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:44 
引用自 R-S!N
There are among us wolves in sheep clothing.

The system has been hijacked(it has been for many years) and corrupted worse than it's ever been. one side is always worse and is more at fault. They'll try to deceive you into thinking otherwise.
among us???
Fuki 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:46 
引用自 R-S!N
There are among us wolves in sheep clothing.

The system has been hijacked(it has been for many years) and corrupted worse than it's ever been. one side is always worse and is more at fault. They'll try to deceive you into thinking otherwise.
Late stage capitalism and late stage democracy (oligarchy)
最后由 Fuki 编辑于; 2024 年 9 月 29 日 上午 11:46
Holografix 2024 年 9 月 29 日 下午 12:06 
引用自 CookieClicker :)
引用自 Holografix
you're british
I would sooner take a dip in pitch and light myself on fire than be compelled to say anything even remotely positive about Britain, let alone to claim to be from there.
doth protest too much
R-S!N 2024 年 9 月 29 日 下午 1:04 
Whistleblower Shares How FBI Uses 'Reprisal And Fear To Control The Workforce': https://youtu.be/tF6XZJ-i4Ww?si=Ig92DnxzSSGwXZET
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