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Kestrel Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:04pm
What is art to you?
What definition do you have for art?

Something has frustrated me often is that people's definition of "art" is often too personal and subjective for my liking. Ultimately, for many people, what they like is "art," and what they don't like isn't.

Because art can be so varied, I define it as, "anything that is intentionally created by a human being."

This means anything. Code, books, doodles, masterpiece paintings, tables, computers, etc...

There is nothing that says art needs to be practical or impractical, or follow a pattern or not, or be appreciated aesthetically.

Whether art is specifically "creative" in every instance or not is another matter, but I won't get into that here.
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󠀡󠀡 Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:06pm 
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Morkonan Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by Kestrel:
What definition do you have for art?..

It is the intentional creation of a work by the artist to communicate a message to another person that is greater than the sum of its parts.

Good art achieves that.

Bad art does not.
Last edited by Morkonan; Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:06pm
there are objectively bad arts but people who denies it probably are artists themselves and want to cope
Kestrel Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by Kestrel:
What definition do you have for art?..

It is the intentional creation of a work by the artist to communicate a message to another person that is greater than the sum of its parts.

Good art achieves that.

Bad art does not.
What do you think are examples of good and bad art? I'm just curious, if it wastes too much of your time to list anything you don't have to bother.
dyinggg Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by Kestrel:
What definition do you have for art?..

It is the intentional creation of a work by the artist to communicate a message to another person that is greater than the sum of its parts.

Good art achieves that.

Bad art does not.

i like this
Fuki 11in2000 Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:14pm 
I believe it is any form of self-expression conceivable to others.
art is something created by the human heart
Kestrel Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by Fuki 11in2000:
I believe it is any form of self-expression conceivable to others.
this is also a very fair definition

Originally posted by the vampire of time and memory:
art is something created by the human heart
how sweet
Morkonan Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by Kestrel:
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What do you think are examples of good and bad art? I'm just curious, if it wastes too much of your time to list anything you don't have to bother.

Well, the definition I wrote should be self-explanatory. BUT, it is nuanced..

If you write a classical symphony and there's a guy in the audience that just "doesn't get it" and that your choices of tone/note/whatever "just don't make sense" to him... is that "Bad Art?"

No.

Your audience for that piece wasn't "him." Not all art must be made to appeal to all observers. It's just not possible to do, anyway, but it has to be recognized just the same... You can't speak to everyone, you just try hard to speak well to those who can hear you.

There is, however, an idea among Bad Artists that if their work doesn't appeal to you then it must be your fault... and that you're not capable of seeing "Good Art."

Did the guy in the audience that couldn't decipher the message think the music was bad or terrible? Probably not. He probably didn't understand the enthusiasm of the other audience members.

What if you make a game that has ten fans, but fifty-eleven product returns and a game-journalism industry that calls it "crap?" Is it good "art" because ten people like it? Probably not. So, there are limits in how far someone can claim their art is demonstrably "good" too.
Shiro♌ Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:24pm 
Has to be created purely and only by a human being.

That's right.
Whatever's AI managed to create by connecting the dots is no longer seen as art by me.
It's.. What.. I don't even know?
A creation of a few algorithms working together, I guess.. :frust:
Scurrybt Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:32pm 
Anything that is expressed from a person in a specific medium.
Ice Robertson Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:41pm 
What is art to you?

I think there's art all around us, it comes in many shapes and forms.
L1qu1dator Oct 6, 2024 @ 5:07pm 
Something that required exceptional craftsmanship for sure.
Painting a circle inside a square, or gluing banana peal to a canvas is not art. And never will be. :steamfacepalm:
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☎need4naiim☎ Oct 6, 2024 @ 5:43pm 
We can't describe Art because we don't have the inherent knowledge of the Creator, the Omniscient God of this MortalRealm and all other realms.

i don't say that humans can't do art. I am telling a different thing here.

We can do art but can't describe it.

Just as, Mankind HAVE souls, but we can't describe them.
Violeta Oct 6, 2024 @ 5:47pm 
Art is what torments me. Because I wanted to make it as a career. But my carpel tunnel prevents it.
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