Charlie Kirk vs 25 Liberal College students

[Bikinisaurus7000]

https://youtu.be/WV29R1M25n8?si=3_QfDVcFSQBwz-8M

This has many interesting conversations. People are willing to die on their hills, rather than learn/reason. Although, some were fairly reasonable.

[Lemur]

cool, I've seen this in my recommended page, might watch it later. I don't want to see this on Off-Topic though. No more political threads!

[Kate Hikes]

Does he get down and kiss Israels feet at the end?

[Bikinisaurus7000]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von RIDDLER:

Does he get down and kiss Israels feet at the end?

[L1qu1dator]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bikinisaurus7000:

This has many interesting conversations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQfzwFloVqA

[livinggg]

I watched it. I'd like to debate charlie and those students.

[Devious]

What a ridiculous format. What's the point of bringing on people to debate when you barely give them time to even state their position?

Going up against single opponent in a fair matchup is much harder than fighting 25 guys with their arms and legs tied.

[livinggg]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Devious:

What a ridiculous format. What's the point of bringing on people to debate when you barely give them time to even state their position?

Going up against single opponent in a fair matchup is much harder than fighting 25 guys with their arms and legs tied.

I thought the same thing. Running for the chairs is a bit absurd

[Othobrithol]

Be wary of these adult alt-right "intellectuals" that post videos of themselves dunking on college kids. I'm pretty sure I can beat up the average 12 year old, but that wouldn't prove I'm a man; it would prove the opposite.

[Kate Hikes]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Othobrithol:

Be wary of these adult alt-right "intellectuals" that post videos of themselves dunking on college kids. I'm pretty sure I can beat up the average 12 year old, but that doesn't prove I'm a man; it proves the opposite.

While you're right about him picking on dumb college libs. Calling him "alt-right" is hilarious. Dude is a basic ♥♥♥♥♥ conservative.

[mai72]

I just dislike these kind of things, because its all done for views. What people who like Charlie do is they will take certain clips as gotcha moments.

Its why you get those YT shorts "Charlie OWNED this liberal blue haired kid" and its just stupid. Instead of coming together to talk and have a discussion on certain topics, its all about OWNING liberals, others because they think differently and have different ideas on life. Its all subjective anyway.

And yea, the libs can be just a s bad.

[mai72]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bikinisaurus7000:

https://youtu.be/WV29R1M25n8?si=3_QfDVcFSQBwz-8M

This has many interesting conversations. People are willing to die on their hills, rather than learn/reason. Although, some were fairly reasonable. :btd6thumbsup:

Is it because they think differently than you?

Is this why they are wrong and Charlie is correct? You do know that your views do change as you go thru life. When you are young you tend to be more liberal. When you age, you tend to become more conservative.

Many of these early 20 somethings could become more conservative at 45. If this happens, would they be more in-line with your POV, and would that make them good people? I don't have to be wrong because I disagree with a person like Charlie. Its all subjective anyway. Our views on life are molded by our experiences of life.

[Othobrithol]

The big thing is that college kids are just learning how to put together a cogent argument and they are doing so by studying the basics - so genius here is going up against kids that are struggling to articulate the boiler plate defense of a position.

He's an adult professional speaker - he already knows the boiler plate arguments and their counter-arguments by heart. Before they get ten words out he is going to identify the argument and give a prepared rebuttal.

They don't stand a chance.

Where it gets pathetic, and he does this often from what I have seen, is that even though he has the overwhelming advantage he still resorts to dirty debate tricks. Things like throwing a tangential aside "correcting them" on some minutiae moments before they are about to begin, shaking their concentration.

He's just a Sophist.

[Hooch]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Othobrithol:

Be wary of these adult alt-right "intellectuals" that post videos of themselves dunking on college kids. I'm pretty sure I can beat up the average 12 year old, but that wouldn't prove I'm a man; it would prove the opposite.

Kirk is in his 20's, debating voters. Just because these voters are in college doesn't mean that they shouldn't have their views challenged. That's the whole point of him going to Universities around the country and doing this. College kids are indoctrinated and have a limited world view. By exposing them to alternative ideas (which used to be a thing on college campuses but isn't any longer), it demonstrates that their views, while supported by those in their small bubbles, aren't necessary a) the only views and/or b) the best views to have.

In short, if you are old enough to vote on policy that impacts other people, you are old enough to have your political views and knowledge questioned.

As far as the chair racing bit, it's silly, but it's the kind of thing that YouTube channel does, it's like a Buzzfeed. They also did one where it was a liberal commentator debating 25 conservatives, using the exact same format.

[Othobrithol]

He's 30.

[Hooch]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von mai72:

I just dislike these kind of things, because its all done for views. What people who like Charlie do is they will take certain clips as gotcha moments.

Its why you get those YT shorts "Charlie OWNED this liberal blue haired kid" and its just stupid. Instead of coming together to talk and have a discussion on certain topics, its all about OWNING liberals, others because they think differently and have different ideas on life. Its all subjective anyway.

And yea, the libs can be just a s bad.

Yes, all those short snippets and sensationalized titles are silly. However, there are longer unedited videos of the entire event on YT on his main channel. And while the titles are cringe, the exchange isn't about "pwning" anyone, but challenging views, which is what we as Americans (or anyone in a Western country) ought to be doing. By NOT talking, NOT debating one another, we become divisive and only see our own bubble's narrative.