Mass Effect 5 is doomed.

[Citizen WEA]

With how this franchise is being treated, I have 0 faith for Mass Effect 5, or any game BioWare is releasing ever again.

[Elvi]

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

引用自 Elvi：

I'll try to look for it. But for the record, I don't mean it was woke or some such, it was just kind of an amateurish bad game with some good, but badly made ideas, mediocre after the year of fixes - just not approaching ME in any way, aside from taking the aesthethics.
Even ME3 ad some weird stuff, I kind of hope they will not make ME5 at this point, there is really only so much abuse the corpse can take. If this one's good, I could sure be more positive, but do doubt that at this point as well :P

There was nothing woke about the game. It was just a bad game. I rocked a female ryder most of my gameplay. Then gave up after the first vault. It became unbearable at that point. How do you mess up alien designs? lol.

Indeed, as I said, wokeness was not an issue, it was just a bad game. As I said. And you repeated to me in a shorther, disagreeble manner. I am a little cofused.

I did have famale Ryder too and I am unhappy to say I actually finished the game.
Sometimes you finish a game and get that amazing feeling of "Wow, I was part of this universe. I was in the lore. This was great. The previous ME's are a good example of this.
In case of Andromeda, it was "That's f***ng 60 hour of my life I am not getting back".

As for alien designs, you can do anything, messing them up is not easy, but, yes, there is Andromeda, lol.

[TriggerHappyMoron]

引用自 Elvi：

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

There was nothing woke about the game. It was just a bad game. I rocked a female ryder most of my gameplay. Then gave up after the first vault. It became unbearable at that point. How do you mess up alien designs? lol.

Indeed, as I said, wokeness was not an issue, it was just a bad game. As I said. And you repeated to me in a shorther, disagreeble manner. I am a little cofused.

I did have famale Ryder too and I am unhappy to say I actually finished the game.
Sometimes you finish a game and get that amazing feeling of "Wow, I was part of this universe. I was in the lore. This was great. The previous ME's are a good example of this.
In case of Andromeda, it was "That's f***ng 60 hour of my life I am not getting back".

As for alien designs, you can do anything, messing them up is not easy, but, yes, there is Andromeda, lol.

Agreed. Regarding the alien designs, I was mostly referring to the ME universe. The asari and the turians are such good designs and they had to go all creepy nightmare fetish in Andromeda.

[Elvi]

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

引用自 Elvi：

Indeed, as I said, wokeness was not an issue, it was just a bad game. As I said. And you repeated to me in a shorther, disagreeble manner. I am a little cofused.

I did have famale Ryder too and I am unhappy to say I actually finished the game.
Sometimes you finish a game and get that amazing feeling of "Wow, I was part of this universe. I was in the lore. This was great. The previous ME's are a good example of this.
In case of Andromeda, it was "That's f***ng 60 hour of my life I am not getting back".

As for alien designs, you can do anything, messing them up is not easy, but, yes, there is Andromeda, lol.

Agreed. Regarding the alien designs, I was mostly referring to the ME universe. The asari and the turians are such good designs and they had to go all creepy nightmare fetish in Andromeda.

Okay, you have to explain, what creepy fetish? I was quite disappointed, because the alien desighs was all "This race looks kinda boney" and "This race has dreads, but they are part of their head". To be fair, you can say the second about the asari too, but not really.

[Shrapnel]

引用自 Ethram：

If Veilguard fails, I really doubt we will see ME5. That, or ME5 will be made by other studio, not Bioware.

From your mouth to God's ear. I want to see Bioware fall faster than that Brazilian plane.

[TriggerHappyMoron]

引用自 Elvi：

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

Agreed. Regarding the alien designs, I was mostly referring to the ME universe. The asari and the turians are such good designs and they had to go all creepy nightmare fetish in Andromeda.

Okay, you have to explain, what creepy fetish? I was quite disappointed, because the alien desighs was all "This race looks kinda boney" and "This race has dreads, but they are part of their head". To be fair, you can say the second about the asari too, but not really.

Just look up the romance scene with one the natives. You would understand. I made that mistake and now regretting it since.

[Elvi]

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

引用自 Elvi：

Okay, you have to explain, what creepy fetish? I was quite disappointed, because the alien desighs was all "This race looks kinda boney" and "This race has dreads, but they are part of their head". To be fair, you can say the second about the asari too, but not really.

Just look up the romance scene with one the natives. You would understand. I made that mistake and now regretting it since.

Yeah, Jaal. I did that mistake too. But still, you make me wonder what I missed / erased from the old memory haha. I just remember extremely human butt.

[Mr D Grim]

引用自 Elvi：

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

There was nothing woke about the game. It was just a bad game. I rocked a female ryder most of my gameplay. Then gave up after the first vault. It became unbearable at that point. How do you mess up alien designs? lol.

Indeed, as I said, wokeness was not an issue, it was just a bad game. As I said. And you repeated to me in a shorther, disagreeble manner. I am a little cofused.

I did have famale Ryder too and I am unhappy to say I actually finished the game.
Sometimes you finish a game and get that amazing feeling of "Wow, I was part of this universe. I was in the lore. This was great. The previous ME's are a good example of this.
In case of Andromeda, it was "That's f***ng 60 hour of my life I am not getting back".

As for alien designs, you can do anything, messing them up is not easy, but, yes, there is Andromeda, lol.

I might be one of the few people who enjoyed andromeda for what it was. (which was basically a rehash of mass effect 1 point to point in another galaxy)
it wasn't great that's for sure. but i enjoyed it none the less.

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

引用自 Elvi：

Indeed, as I said, wokeness was not an issue, it was just a bad game. As I said. And you repeated to me in a shorther, disagreeble manner. I am a little cofused.

I did have famale Ryder too and I am unhappy to say I actually finished the game.
Sometimes you finish a game and get that amazing feeling of "Wow, I was part of this universe. I was in the lore. This was great. The previous ME's are a good example of this.
In case of Andromeda, it was "That's f***ng 60 hour of my life I am not getting back".

As for alien designs, you can do anything, messing them up is not easy, but, yes, there is Andromeda, lol.

Agreed. Regarding the alien designs, I was mostly referring to the ME universe. The asari and the turians are such good designs and they had to go all creepy nightmare fetish in Andromeda.

about the alien designs. i disagree, alien design was good. Individual character design. was very bad.

[Silent]

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

引用自 Silent：

Most likely. Taking into account that there were only 3 ME games.

Welcome to the club. I also try to pretend ME:A doesn't exist and bioware would be shutdown by the time they get to it.

I'm not pretending. MEA is not numeric part, so next numeric part is 4.

[TriggerHappyMoron]

引用自 Mr D Grim：

引用自 Elvi：

Indeed, as I said, wokeness was not an issue, it was just a bad game. As I said. And you repeated to me in a shorther, disagreeble manner. I am a little cofused.

I did have famale Ryder too and I am unhappy to say I actually finished the game.
Sometimes you finish a game and get that amazing feeling of "Wow, I was part of this universe. I was in the lore. This was great. The previous ME's are a good example of this.
In case of Andromeda, it was "That's f***ng 60 hour of my life I am not getting back".

As for alien designs, you can do anything, messing them up is not easy, but, yes, there is Andromeda, lol.

I might be one of the few people who enjoyed andromeda for what it was. (which was basically a rehash of mass effect 1 point to point in another galaxy)
it wasn't great that's for sure. but i enjoyed it none the less.

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

Agreed. Regarding the alien designs, I was mostly referring to the ME universe. The asari and the turians are such good designs and they had to go all creepy nightmare fetish in Andromeda.

about the alien designs. i disagree, alien design was good. Individual character design. was very bad.

Nah man. You can't convince me about the new species design. Its just the asari with a demon body.

[Mr D Grim]

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

引用自 Mr D Grim：

I might be one of the few people who enjoyed andromeda for what it was. (which was basically a rehash of mass effect 1 point to point in another galaxy)
it wasn't great that's for sure. but i enjoyed it none the less.





about the alien designs. i disagree, alien design was good. Individual character design. was very bad.

Nah man. You can't convince me about the new species design. Its just the asari with a demon body.

nah. they look fine. kinda remind me of those aliens from star wars. but to each their own.

[Elvi]

引用自 Mr D Grim：

引用自 TriggerHappyMoron：

Nah man. You can't convince me about the new species design. Its just the asari with a demon body.

nah. they look fine. kinda remind me of those aliens from star wars. but to each their own.

They didn't go alien enough or different from previous aliens enough. It really was just significantly uglier asari.

[Mr D Grim]

引用自 Elvi：

引用自 Mr D Grim：

I might be one of the few people who enjoyed andromeda for what it was. (which was basically a rehash of mass effect 1 point to point in another galaxy)
it wasn't great that's for sure. but i enjoyed it none the less.

about the alien designs. i disagree, alien design was good. Individual character design. was very bad.

To be fair, I enjoyed it also, I would not play it to he end otherwise. But it was not a god feeling at the end for me. More of a "Yeah, so I did that huh".

As for designs, it could be that it was just all bad. Not that character design or alien design was bad. It all was just rather unremarkable.

I actually remember having the same feeling finishing that game. as i did when i finished ME1. but just a tad bit less.
like in ME1 first time i litereally shouted out loud "YEAAH!" when the normandy did that uturn drop straight into a couple blast into sovereign.
didn't get that much in andromeda. but the rest of the feeling was there tbh.

[Mr D Grim]

引用自 Elvi：

引用自 Mr D Grim：

nah. they look fine. kinda remind me of those aliens from star wars. but to each their own.

They didn't go alien enough or different from previous aliens enough. It really was just significantly uglier asari.

sure they could've gone WAY more alien. but they were also limited by budget and other design elements like it would've taken more work if they made something else then bipedal aliens.
andromeda got really little in terms of budget from what i remember.

[JerBeware]

引用自 Mr D Grim：

引用自 Elvi：

To be fair, I enjoyed it also, I would not play it to he end otherwise. But it was not a god feeling at the end for me. More of a "Yeah, so I did that huh".

As for designs, it could be that it was just all bad. Not that character design or alien design was bad. It all was just rather unremarkable.

I actually remember having the same feeling finishing that game. as i did when i finished ME1. but just a tad bit less.
like in ME1 first time i litereally shouted out loud "YEAAH!" when the normandy did that uturn drop straight into a couple blast into sovereign.
didn't get that much in andromeda. but the rest of the feeling was there tbh.

Yeah. I mean it definitely had some disappointing aspects. I think part of it was, it was just a step backwards in a franchise (that despite other issues), had up until that point largely delivered 9+/10 type of games. To me at least...

Just didn't fully live up to that potential.

[Elvi]

引用自 Mr D Grim：

引用自 Elvi：

To be fair, I enjoyed it also, I would not play it to he end otherwise. But it was not a god feeling at the end for me. More of a "Yeah, so I did that huh".

As for designs, it could be that it was just all bad. Not that character design or alien design was bad. It all was just rather unremarkable.

I actually remember having the same feeling finishing that game. as i did when i finished ME1. but just a tad bit less.
like in ME1 first time i litereally shouted out loud "YEAAH!" when the normandy did that uturn drop straight into a couple blast into sovereign.
didn't get that much in andromeda. but the rest of the feeling was there tbh.

It doesn't help that, arguably, the game has okay/interesting start and it gets worse and repetitive towards the middle, with the end itself being fully "shrug* "Okay?".
Personally I dissagree on that being like ME1 tho. Like disagree a lot.

Edit: I think Andromeda got a lot lefss funding too, tho I have no idea if that is something I made up or is reality. Still tho, Jaal was okay, but not up to the bar set by previous games. Then, there was Liam. I think he gave me PTSD.