How many humans it would take to defeat an elephant?

[Stakanov]

It may seem crazy but I sincerely believe that only 1 human can defeat an elephant, I'll explain.

All you have to do is climb up by the trunk and then gouge out its eyes, from there it will be completely paralyzed and you just have to continue hitting this sensitive area up to the brain.

I honestly think we overestimate the elephant because of its size, but they don't have arms, once on them they can't do anything

[abcd]

one or two but the statistical chances of being that one or two are similar to the chances of being the one or two that could defeat a regular human.

[Leo *No Sounds* CS.ARMY]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Stakanov:

It may seem crazy but I sincerely believe that only 1 human can defeat an elephant, I'll explain.

All you have to do is climb up by the trunk and then gouge out its eyes, from there it will be completely paralyzed and you just have to continue hitting this sensitive area up to the brain.

I honestly think we overestimate the elephant because of its size, but they don't have arms, once on them they can't do anything

You going to show the world how to do it first?

I actually think he got a point about poping his eyes and brutality murder it.

[Stakanov]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Morkonan:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Devsman:

Yeah, I'd imagine so.

I think the danger is waking up that morning and deciding "Yeah, imma fight an elefant, lol."

To answer you, I appreciate your point of view, but in my opinion you are only focusing on the assault and force aspect, of course this tactic would result in a significant number of losses.
But I am in the use of human intellect, anticipation, preparation, deceiving your prey and making it lower its guard.
A quick action consisting of climbing on the elephant and once on top, the elephant can no longer reach you and it has just neutralized you, in your video the 2 people who mounted the elephant are completely safe because the elephant cannot reach them, this is the ultimate weak point of the elephant...
Then you just have to attack the least armored part of its body aka its eyes and eliminate it from the inside.
I will prepare a pictorial representation so that it is clear to everyone because I think that few people understand where I am going with this

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Caldari Ghost:

How would gouging out the eyes paralyze it?

The fact that he goes blind will panic him, plus the extreme pain, I think he will end up losing his strength with all the blood he will lose.

[Xero_Daxter]

I don’t think you’d understand how powerful elephants are. Even a pack of lions wouldn’t dare attack a fully grown elephant without risking their lives.

[Masque]

1. Feed elephant.

2. Befriend elephant.

3. Poison elephant.

Now gimme my money.

[Spirit]

try attacking its eyes, it will go full rage mode and either bite or throw you, then charge and stomp

[Stakanov]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Melon Musk:

Seven.

It's a good number I think, it's safe, I can imagine the thing, a group of 3 to climb, 2 to distract the elephant and 2 in reserve in case of an emergency.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Stakanov:

It may seem crazy but I sincerely believe that only 1 human can defeat an elephant, I'll explain.

All you have to do is climb up by the trunk and then gouge out its eyes, from there it will be completely paralyzed and you just have to continue hitting this sensitive area up to the brain.

I honestly think we overestimate the elephant because of its size, but they don't have arms, once on them they can't do anything

You going to show the world how to do it first?

The topic is about the number of humans it would take to defeat an elephant, not me...
But to answer you, I am a pacifist, I would never want to hurt an elephant.

[Xero_Daxter]

I think a better question would be “how many gorillas would it take to defeat an elephant?” Since gorillas are very strong.

[Stakanov]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xero_Daxter:

I don’t think you’d understand how powerful elephants are. Even a pack of lions wouldn’t dare attack a fully grown elephant without risking their lives.

I know but, lions don't have our intelligence, I think you underestimate the power of human intellect. Attacking an elephant with a precise strategy and targeting weak points only humans can do.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Masque:

1. Feed elephant.

2. Befriend elephant.

3. Poison elephant.

Now gimme my money. :amadeus_happy:

Good idea to try to tame him, but he's unarmed, a human with nothing, so you can't feed him or poison him, but it's a good idea to make him lower his guard by taming him.

[Morkonan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Stakanov:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Morkonan:

I think the danger is waking up that morning and deciding "Yeah, imma fight an elefant, lol."

To answer you, I appreciate your point of view, but in my opinion you are only focusing on the assault and force aspect, of course this tactic would result in a significant number of losses.
But I am in the use of human intellect, anticipation, preparation, deceiving your prey and making it lower its guard.

That is not what you maintained throughout several posts... You wanted to climb it and poke out its eye, remember?

You ain't gonna do that if the elephant doesn't want to let you do that.

...The fact that he goes blind will panic him, plus the extreme pain, I think he will end up losing his strength with all the blood he will lose.

No. You can have your eyeball smushed and busted and survive it with no problems relative to "bleeding to death" - That's why you can find eye-patches being sold over-the-counter in pharmacies... Losing an eye is catastrophic only in no longer being able to see using that particular eye. I've known several people who've lost an eye and they're fine and were not in danger of bleeding to death from just that injury.


You also may need to look into a bit of stuff about animal behavior. What do elephants "do" when they're in a conflict/fight? What are they engineered to do? What about other animals?

Wild animals, even apex predators or those with no natural predators, are wary of potential injury. They don't have health insurance. So, even an apex predator is going be susceptible to having a bit of hesitation in a situation that is unfamiliar to them. In fact, this is so common across the spectrum of all predators and most other animals, that the best way to not get eaten by a shark is to not look like a shark's natural prey...


(Breakout Box: Why is it so hard to go out into the deep woods and spot all the wildlife that is native to that region? And, there ya go - You're strange and they are avoiding you.)


But, sharks are smart, too, and naturally curious. Being "curious" is a good survival trait, as it could give one access to advantages. So, just don't look like a seal, but also don't look too darn shiny and interesting to a shark - Done.


The elephant decided not to curbstomp the man's face.

Once.

What would have happened if it had decided to curbstomp that man's face? Well, it would have maybe curbstomped everyone else's, the camera's, the Rover's, the seat cushions... No video.

Roll the dice if you wish. But, I think it's best to understand that your chances of success are entirely dependent on something that is outside of your control. "You" aren't the deciding factor in a confrontation with overwhelming force - The animal is.

[abcd]

elephants only rely on their eyes for long-distance viewing. they mostly rely on scent and hearing for everything near.

most of these plans sound not so good as a result.

[Stakanov]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3323909707

Here is a graphical representation of my idea of ​​a 1vs1 fight against an elephant.

[Stakanov]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Morkonan:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Stakanov:

To answer you, I appreciate your point of view, but in my opinion you are only focusing on the assault and force aspect, of course this tactic would result in a significant number of losses.
But I am in the use of human intellect, anticipation, preparation, deceiving your prey and making it lower its guard.

That is not what you maintained throughout several posts... You wanted to climb it and poke out its eye, remember?

You ain't gonna do that if the elephant doesn't want to let you do that.

...The fact that he goes blind will panic him, plus the extreme pain, I think he will end up losing his strength with all the blood he will lose.

No. You can have your eyeball smushed and busted and survive it with no problems relative to "bleeding to death" - That's why you can find eye-patches being sold over-the-counter in pharmacies... Losing an eye is catastrophic only in no longer being able to see using that particular eye. I've known several people who've lost an eye and they're fine and were not in danger of bleeding to death from just that injury.


You also may need to look into a bit of stuff about animal behavior. What do elephants "do" when they're in a conflict/fight? What are they engineered to do? What about other animals?

Wild animals, even apex predators or those with no natural predators, are wary of potential injury. They don't have health insurance. So, even an apex predator is going be susceptible to having a bit of hesitation in a situation that is unfamiliar to them. In fact, this is so common across the spectrum of all predators and most other animals, that the best way to not get eaten by a shark is to not look like a shark's natural prey...


(Breakout Box: Why is it so hard to go out into the deep woods and spot all the wildlife that is native to that region? And, there ya go - You're strange and they are avoiding you.)


But, sharks are smart, too, and naturally curious. Being "curious" is a good survival trait, as it could give one access to advantages. So, just don't look like a seal, but also don't look too darn shiny and interesting to a shark - Done.


The elephant decided not to curbstomp the man's face.

Once.

What would have happened if it had decided to curbstomp that man's face? Well, it would have maybe curbstomped everyone else's, the camera's, the Rover's, the seat cushions... No video.

Roll the dice if you wish. But, I think it's best to understand that your chances of success are entirely dependent on something that is outside of your control. "You" aren't the deciding factor in a confrontation with overwhelming force - The animal is.

But an elephant from the moment you climb on him he can't do anything, that's what I keep saying, an elephant can't attack someone who is on him from above because he doesn't have arms...

Putting out his eyes will be very painful not to mention the blood loss and, from there you just have to dig until you reach the skull, the elephant won't be able to do anything about it.

It's only at the beginning when you're on the ground that it's dangerous.

But I think that even if it's very risky if you manage to climb on him you're winning, look at the drawing I made to understand where I'm going with this.

I think Melon is the most correct with 7 people to defeat an elephant according to my method.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xero_Daxter:

I think a better question would be “how many gorillas would it take to defeat an elephant?” Since gorillas are very strong.

I think we might need 50, yes they are strong but they are not smart like us, an elephant would crush them I think

[Morkonan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Stakanov:

But an elephant from the moment you climb on him he can't do anything, that's what I keep saying, an elephant can't attack someone who is on him from above because he doesn't have arms...

Putting out his eyes will be very painful not to mention the blood loss and, from there you just have to dig until you reach the skull, the elephant won't be able to do anything about it.

It's only at the beginning when you're on the ground that it's dangerous.

But, you can't reach an elephant's eyes without coming within reach of its trunk. Elephants use their trunk to manipulate all sorts of things and it is very strong, capable of squeezing you to death or throwing you across a field...

But I think that even if it's very risky if you manage to climb on him you're winning, look at the drawing I made to understand where I'm going with this.

While that is a very accurate depiction, I think it is faked. There's no "ground."

I think Melon is the most correct with 7 people to defeat an elephant according to my method.

Well, that depends on how big they are. And, if that's the case, then one really big and strong person could do it by themselves.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

Umbubu!

Fetch my elephant gun.