How many humans it would take to defeat an elephant?

[Stakanov]

It may seem crazy but I sincerely believe that only 1 human can defeat an elephant, I'll explain.

All you have to do is climb up by the trunk and then gouge out its eyes, from there it will be completely paralyzed and you just have to continue hitting this sensitive area up to the brain.

I honestly think we overestimate the elephant because of its size, but they don't have arms, once on them they can't do anything

[Morkonan]

Stakanov lähetti viestin:

Serious answers please...

If you're talking about unarmed humans that are not assisted by anything else other then their combined physical efforts, it may not be possible...

A limited number of humans can contact that elephant at one time. That is the amount of force that could be directed to the task. However, keep in mind that there is a great deal of inefficiency as that force isn't perfectly directed by one brain. It's also not possible to concentrate that force with any great degree of significance - The entirety of that force is not available at any one general spot.

The only way humans could possibly overcome an elephant is due to their own mass being greater than the elephant can withstand. So, a giant crowd may be able to press against an elephant to overcome it, but it's also likely the force required means you'd have a lot of dead, asphyxiated, human corpses still standing up because there's not enough room for them to fall down.

I honestly think we overestimate the elephant because of its size, but they don't have arms, once on them they can't do anything

What is the largest animal you have ever been next to? You are not stopping a horse or a cow with your physical strength. Humans are masters of this world not because of our physical power, but because we are smart enough to know our limitations and invent tools we can use to overcome them.

[Xero_Daxter]

Stakanov lähetti viestin:

Xero_Daxter lähetti viestin:

With weapons or no weapons?

no weapons

Well… that’s the equivalent of 100 3 year olds trying to take down a grown adult. It would take too much effort than it’s worth.

[Devsman]

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All you have to do is climb up by the trunk and then gouge out its eyes

Is that all

[Ramonkey]

https://youtu.be/I8R50nvv5gc?si=JKgkHOmlvYmTMGox

[Morkonan]

Ramonkey lähetti viestin:

https://youtu.be/I8R50nvv5gc?si=JKgkHOmlvYmTMGox

"Elephant decides not to paint the ground with a man's internal organs" - Fix't

[Stakanov]

Morkonan lähetti viestin:

Stakanov lähetti viestin:

Serious answers please...

If you're talking about unarmed humans that are not assisted by anything else other then their combined physical efforts, it may not be possible...

A limited number of humans can contact that elephant at one time. That is the amount of force that could be directed to the task. However, keep in mind that there is a great deal of inefficiency as that force isn't perfectly directed by one brain. It's also not possible to concentrate that force with any great degree of significance - The entirety of that force is not available at any one general spot.

The only way humans could possibly overcome an elephant is due to their own mass being greater than the elephant can withstand. So, a giant crowd may be able to press against an elephant to overcome it, but it's also likely the force required means you'd have a lot of dead, asphyxiated, human corpses still standing up because there's not enough room for them to fall down.

I honestly think we overestimate the elephant because of its size, but they don't have arms, once on them they can't do anything

What is the largest animal you have ever been next to? You are not stopping a horse or a cow with your physical strength. Humans are masters of this world not because of our physical power, but because we are smart enough to know our limitations and invent tools we can use to overcome them.

Very interesting, but what number do you think is needed? 50, 100, 500?

My thought is that even without a weapon, a human could defeat an elephant, so you'd need an excellent athlete, and I'm all for dodging and climbing on the animal, because once up there I think an elephant can't do anything and has lost.

I'm thinking of 10 people, 5 playing bait and the other 5 climbing to defeat the animal.

[Stakanov]

Devsman lähetti viestin:

Stakanov lähetti viestin:

All you have to do is climb up by the trunk and then gouge out its eyes

Is that all

Once you get to the top, yes, I think the danger is mostly while you're climbing.

Xero_Daxter lähetti viestin:

Stakanov lähetti viestin:

no weapons

Well… that’s the equivalent of 100 3 year olds trying to take down a grown adult. It would take too much effort than it’s worth.

I don't agree, even 1 trillion 3-year-olds don't stand a chance against an adult because humans are gifted with intelligence.

An elephant is very large and powerful, but humans are far superior in intelligence, which enables them to anticipate the elephant's actions and trap it.

[Stakanov]

Ramonkey lähetti viestin:

https://youtu.be/I8R50nvv5gc?si=JKgkHOmlvYmTMGox

I was looking for this video, thank you

Voila, a human can trick the elephant and trap it

Morkonan lähetti viestin:

Ramonkey lähetti viestin:

https://youtu.be/I8R50nvv5gc?si=JKgkHOmlvYmTMGox

"Elephant decides not to paint the ground with a man's internal organs" - Fix't

He was indeed intimidated by this man's self-assurance. It just goes to show how weak this animal is in the face of man.

[Morkonan]

Stakanov lähetti viestin:

Very interesting, but what number do you think is needed? 50, 100, 500?

Well, you'd have to know how much force the elephant can direct, what size area that's directed again, how much the mass of the humans could provide resistance against the elephant's force at that point, etc...

So, if an elephant was charging in one direction, they only have to get through a small portion of the total humans surrounding them and attempting to overcome them. But, that elephant can choose to apply its concentrated force at any one point at any time, while humans surrounding it have to combine their force to try to have an effect. In essence, you have to be able to apply overwhelming force in any direction the elephant chooses to attack.

You'd actually need more force available surrounding it to withstand the elephant than would be needed to restrain it... IOW - The amount of force needed to overcome the elephant is, let's say, 500 humans. But, only a hundred can surround it at any one time, meaning that the total ranks of humans surrounding it is less than four ranks, since the amount needed to surround it increases due to the larger circumference for each rank.

And, that elephant can easily break through a couple of ranks of humans, right? So, you need it to have to try to break through 500 at any one point... You'd need multiple thousands of humans to encircled that elephant if they were collectively trying to restrain it.

My thought is that even without a weapon, a human could defeat an elephant, so you'd need an excellent athlete, and I'm all for dodging and climbing on the animal, because once up there I think an elephant can't do anything and has lost.

I'm thinking of 10 people, 5 playing bait and the other 5 climbing to defeat the animal.

They'd all be dead if that is what the elephant decided to do. Period. End of story, end of those humans... :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J34T2yHvrFk

There are plenty of videos showing graphic elephant rampages... This one just shows an Indian Elephant flipping little runabout/cars around. (Indian elephants are smaller than African elephants.)

This is why physical fighting sports have "weight classes." A heavyweight boxer fighting a featherweight boxer is not even a contest - The featherweight will lose. No matter how skilled that trained featherweight, that trained heavyweight boxer is going to mush their face in...

Have you ever seen George Foreman fight back in his day? His arm must weigh 60 lbs by itself. If he wants to move it, it's gonna move. And, if he wants to move it very fast, whatever is on the other side is going to be paste. :)

[Morkonan]

Stakanov lähetti viestin:

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He was indeed intimidated by this man's self-assurance. It just goes to show how weak this animal is in the face of man.

I had this exact conversation with someone, yesterday.

I'll leave out the specifics, but we were talking about someone that would get a bit aggressive when they were out drinking with the guys on a night "out on the town."

They had complained to this person that "nobody wanted to fight them" because, they assumed, "others are intimidated by me."

The FACT was that others were either intimidated by this person's friends or those friends had gone to great lengths to smooth over things like insults and provocative actions this overly-aggressive person had done at bars and other places people get drunk...

The lesson - If you go out picking fights, eventually someone is going to whup your @$$ for you... And, if you pick on the biggest guy there because they're big, you will get your @$$ kicked by the biggest guy that gets a chance.

Make sure to have your affairs in order if you try to take on an elephant or any other large animal. RIP (Even smaller ones - Humans spend their time on teh interwebz. Wild animals do not have luxury time and spend most of their day either hunting other animals or avoiding being dinner. A deer is not a lazy animal... it "works out" every single minute of every day. :))

[Devsman]

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Devsman lähetti viestin:

Is that all

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I think the danger is mostly while you're climbing.

Yeah, I'd imagine so.

[Morkonan]

Devsman lähetti viestin:

Stakanov lähetti viestin:

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I think the danger is mostly while you're climbing.

Yeah, I'd imagine so.

I think the danger is waking up that morning and deciding "Yeah, imma fight an elefant, lol."

[Caldari Ghost]

How would gouging out the eyes paralyze it?

[Leo *No Sounds* CS.ARMY]

Seven.

[Hobbit XIII]

Stakanov lähetti viestin:

It may seem crazy but I sincerely believe that only 1 human can defeat an elephant, I'll explain.

All you have to do is climb up by the trunk and then gouge out its eyes, from there it will be completely paralyzed and you just have to continue hitting this sensitive area up to the brain.

I honestly think we overestimate the elephant because of its size, but they don't have arms, once on them they can't do anything

You going to show the world how to do it first?