Crash of the 1st F-16 in Ukraine

[Stakanov]

According to the wall street journal it was an accident but CNN says it was destroyed . The pilot died rip.

They arrived last week and there's already one less...

[vkobe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh abcd:

when a plane crashes from an accident and is destroyed it's still destroyed.

active verb tense isn't really taken that seriously in american english, and as far as I know the habit is becoming more widespread in the uk too.

they also lost the pilot

[abcd]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Stakanov:

Diposting pertama kali oleh abcd:

when a plane crashes from an accident and is destroyed it's still destroyed.

active verb tense isn't really taken that seriously in american english, and as far as I know the habit is becoming more widespread in the uk too.

It's clear, destroyed, not accidental. Then you can cope as much as you want.

It's obvious to me, it happened on the day of the massive Russian strikes, so I think we all know what that means.

I'm telling you that you don't understand the word's grammatical usage and are making a pint.

[abcd]

Diposting pertama kali oleh vkobe:

Diposting pertama kali oleh abcd:

when a plane crashes from an accident and is destroyed it's still destroyed.

active verb tense isn't really taken that seriously in american english, and as far as I know the habit is becoming more widespread in the uk too.

they also lost the pilot

yeah US fightercraft are basically deathtraps. they're always trying to have the ejection systems removed and replaced with some kind of cannon to eject dead pilots so they can fly it by wire.

[joco]

Diposting pertama kali oleh König der Piraten:

Wow! Do people lose machinery during the war? Unbelievable!

I thought that F16s should stay in hangars for inspiration.

That's the only place that they are safe.

[vkobe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Stakanov:

Diposting pertama kali oleh joco:

Russia has air superiority in theater, the F16s will all be parked or destroyed. Good equipment isn't enough without highly trained personal and infrastructure supporting it.

Exactly, plus you need a suitable airfield to get them off the ground, which is extremely high-risk in the Ukraine.

if it can fly or land on parking or big street it is ok, they can hide f16

[猫 • König der Piraten]

Diposting pertama kali oleh joco:

That's the only place that they are safe.

F16 is nothing more than a tool. If you keep it safe, nothing happens.

[joco]

Diposting pertama kali oleh König der Piraten:

Diposting pertama kali oleh joco:

That's the only place that they are safe.

F16 is nothing more than a tool. If you keep it safe, nothing happens.

They are not going to have any effect without proper support.

[Stakanov]

Diposting pertama kali oleh abcd:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Stakanov:

It's clear, destroyed, not accidental. Then you can cope as much as you want.

It's obvious to me, it happened on the day of the massive Russian strikes, so I think we all know what that means.

I'm telling you that you don't understand the word's grammatical usage and are making a pint.

If you want to finagle, go on, you're not making the slightest diffidence, I think it would be more interest to actually get to grips with the situation.

[猫 • König der Piraten]

Diposting pertama kali oleh joco:

They are not going to have any effect without proper support.

Ukraine is in danger of ballistic airstrikes, Ukraine can't properly support jets... etc. What do you recommend, not to use them?

[PlanktonHatesTheWorld]

"Oh no! The tax money!"

lmao, that money was gonna be wasted whether this jet crashed or not, get real.

[abcd]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Stakanov:

Diposting pertama kali oleh abcd:

I'm telling you that you don't understand the word's grammatical usage and are making a pint.

If you want to finagle, go on, you're not making the slightest diffidence, I think it would be more interest to actually get to grips with the situation.

A plane crashed. That's the situation.

You're trying to pretend it went down in combat based on an obviously faulty grammatical assumption.

Did you pass third grade? Is there a type of person who couldn't pass third grade you're targeting with this propaganda? Isn't it kind of sad to have to target that person?

[vkobe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh König der Piraten:

Diposting pertama kali oleh joco:

They are not going to have any effect without proper support.

Ukraine is in danger of ballistic airstrikes, Ukraine can't properly support jets... etc. What do you recommend, not to use them?

do like their mig 29

hide it if they can

i hope f16 can fly and land on same field than mig 29, otherwise it mean f16 is just useless jet if it really need airbase runway

[猫 • König der Piraten]

Diposting pertama kali oleh vkobe:

do like their mig 29

hide it if they can

i hope f16 can fly and land on same field than mig 29, otherwise it mean f16 is just useless jet if it really need airbase runway

I don't care about jets, nor any other military machinery. I can say nothing.

Fortunately, Ukraine got these jets. That's much better than nothing.

[Stakanov]

Diposting pertama kali oleh abcd:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Stakanov:

If you want to finagle, go on, you're not making the slightest diffidence, I think it would be more interest to actually get to grips with the situation.

A plane crashed. That's the situation.

You're trying to pretend it went down in combat based on an obviously faulty grammatical assumption.

Did you pass third grade?

Look, I understand that this is bad news for a lot of people who support Ukraine, but at some point you have to stop denying it, you're the only one trying to spin it in order to make yourself feel better.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-f-16-jet-destroyed-crash-monday-wsj-reports-2024-08-29/

"Ukraine's Air Force Western command posted on Facebook an obituary of a pilot, Oleksiy Mes, saying he died while repelling Monday's attack"

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/29/europe/ukraine-f16-crashes-intl/index.html

"The Ukrainian Defense Forces do not believe pilot error was behind the incident, the source added."

[abcd]

Usually when Russia ships a batch of old planes like this, a certain percentage has gross mechanical failures built into it. They're the planes they couldn't quite get to work anymore.

Now supposedly the US doesn't do this, knowingly.