Were female custodes always a thing?

[ALV]

I recently watched The Tithe and the custodes turned out to be female which kinda surprised me as I was under the impression that the custodes were all male (I'm not trying to be sexist btw I'm just drawing from my limited knowledge from 40k and a few posts for and against this change). 'Nother question I have is can ladies actually be custodes as I know why they can't be space marines (gene seed and all that) but is there an actual reason why they, supposedly, cant be custodes? ( Again my knowledge on 40k is limited so forgive me if I don't know a few major lore points)

[MILF & Cookies]

Nope

[Катюша]

No, they weren't.

[Black men are demigods]

in the warhammer 40k universe, the ac are made up only of men. they are genetically engineered superhumans created using the emperor's dna, similar to space marines, and this process is for male individuals. however, there are female warriors in warhammer 40k, but not in units like the custodes. example, the adepta sororitas (sisters of battle), which is an all female military order. they are loyal to the emperor and fight with religious devotion. while there are female characters in other factions and races, women have never been part of the custodes.

[xDDD]

No.There is no real reason for there to be female custodes. If they already pick the absolute strongest of the strongest men, why would they choose a woman?
And even if there were female custodes they'd be identical to the males due to all the modifications. They could just use the same model and say "Oh yeah btw this is Suzy the Custode, she is a strong woman who serves the Emperor"

So ultimately the whole thing was meaningless virtue-signalling from GW. Pretty damn ominous, but not that bad (yet).

[ALV]

xDDD님이 먼저 게시:

No.There is no real reason for there to be female custodes. If they already pick the absolute strongest of the strongest men, why would they choose a woman?
And even if there were female custodes they'd be identical to the males due to all the modifications. They could just use the same model and say "Oh yeah btw this is Suzy the Custode, she is a strong woman who serves the Emperor"

So ultimately the whole thing was meaningless virtue-signalling from GW. Pretty damn ominous, but not that bad (yet).

Yeah I truly worry we might get another disney on our hands

[ALV]

wiggle wriggle little fish님이 먼저 게시:

in the warhammer 40k universe, the ac are made up only of men. they are genetically engineered superhumans created using the emperor's dna, similar to space marines, and this process is for male individuals. however, there are female warriors in warhammer 40k, but not in units like the custodes. example, the adepta sororitas (sisters of battle), which is an all female military order. they are loyal to the emperor and fight with religious devotion. while there are female characters in other factions and races, women have never been part of the custodes.

Mind if I ask, can a woman become a custodes though? I know because of gene seed that they can't become a space marine but what is the exact process of becoming a custodes or is that kinda hidden away?

[State Line Crosser]

They easily could have dodged a lot of this controversy by just making the change be a new discovery in the modification process like the primaris stuff. Given how rare successful candidates are for these units even a small increase in successes would likely be worth sub standard results.

But they instead decided to retcon everything in the worst way possible because that's the GW way. They want you to think that there was always female custodes but how it reads right now is the imperium just slept on them for like 10k years for "reasons."

ALV님이 먼저 게시:

Mind if I ask, can a woman become a custodes though? I know because of gene seed that they can't become a space marine but what is the exact process of becoming a custodes or is that kinda hidden away?

A better lore expert will probably come along but I'll take a shot. The process is kind of vague but it did mention specifically that they were "sons" of the emperor. Because there isn't a known mechanic like the gene seed it was an easier in for gw. If they aren't regarded they will make female custodes look basically identical to males.

So in short, it wasn't specifically stated how they were made so they could more easily retcon it. They didn't answer why nobody bothered to do it for thousands of years and lazily said that they were always there.

[Stormer]

No though there was a sisters of silence unit in the same faction as them

idk why they didnt just double down on those instead, people wouldnt have complained then

[Black men are demigods]

ALV님이 먼저 게시:

wiggle wriggle little fish님이 먼저 게시:

in the warhammer 40k universe, the ac are made up only of men. they are genetically engineered superhumans created using the emperor's dna, similar to space marines, and this process is for male individuals. however, there are female warriors in warhammer 40k, but not in units like the custodes. example, the adepta sororitas (sisters of battle), which is an all female military order. they are loyal to the emperor and fight with religious devotion. while there are female characters in other factions and races, women have never been part of the custodes.

Mind if I ask, can a woman become a custodes though? I know because of gene seed that they can't become a space marine but what is the exact process of becoming a custodes or is that kinda hidden away?

you know, warhammer universe, the lore is vast, and sometimes details are left intentionally vague. for this the exact process of becoming a custodes is somewhat mysterious, but we know custodes are created through a unique and highly secretive process that goes beyond what is used for sm. while sm are made using gene seed implantation, custodes are crafted using more direct and refined genetic manipulation based on the emperor's own genetic material. this makes each custodian a one of a kind warrior, more powerful and independent than a sm. well it’s not explicitly stated, but based on the lore, it seems unlikely. custodes' origins are deeply tied to the emperor's genetic template, and like the sm, they have always been depicted as male.

[ナルゴ]

No. Older books specifically used gendered language.
I'm sure 40k fans wouldn't have minded a female custodes retcon if it was first introduced in a printwork. It's a custom bioengineered human after all.

The problem was when the warhammer twitter suddenly claimed they have always existed out of nowhere, which naturally led to angry twitter users thinking it was politically motivated revisionism.

[ALV]

State Line Crosser님이 먼저 게시:

They easily could have dodged a lot of this controversy by just making the change be a new discovery in the modification process like the primaris stuff. Given how rare successful candidates are for these units even a small increase in successes would likely be worth sub standard results.

But they instead decided to retcon everything in the worst way possible because that's the GW way. They want you to think that there was always female custodes but how it reads right now is the imperium just slept on them for like 10k years for "reasons."

ALV님이 먼저 게시:

Mind if I ask, can a woman become a custodes though? I know because of gene seed that they can't become a space marine but what is the exact process of becoming a custodes or is that kinda hidden away?

A better lore expert will probably come along but I'll take a shot. The process is kind of vague but it did mention specifically that they were "sons" of the emperor. Because there isn't a known mechanic like the gene seed it was an easier in for gw. If they aren't regarded they will make female custodes look basically identical to males.

So in short, it wasn't specifically stated how they were made so they could more easily retcon it. They didn't answer why nobody bothered to do it for thousands of years and lazily said that they were always there.

Wow that sounds infinitely better than the "there has always been female custodes" thing!

[tonni]

State Line Crosser님이 먼저 게시:

They easily could have dodged a lot of this controversy by just making the change be a new discovery in the modification process like the primaris stuff. Given how rare successful candidates are for these units even a small increase in successes would likely be worth sub standard results.

But they instead decided to retcon everything in the worst way possible because that's the GW way. They want you to think that there was always female custodes but how it reads right now is the imperium just slept on them for like 10k years for "reasons."

ALV님이 먼저 게시:

Mind if I ask, can a woman become a custodes though? I know because of gene seed that they can't become a space marine but what is the exact process of becoming a custodes or is that kinda hidden away?

A better lore expert will probably come along but I'll take a shot. The process is kind of vague but it did mention specifically that they were "sons" of the emperor. Because there isn't a known mechanic like the gene seed it was an easier in for gw. If they aren't regarded they will make female custodes look basically identical to males.

So in short, it wasn't specifically stated how they were made so they could more easily retcon it. They didn't answer why nobody bothered to do it for thousands of years and lazily said that they were always there.

whats GW?

[ALV]

tonni님이 먼저 게시:

State Line Crosser님이 먼저 게시:

They easily could have dodged a lot of this controversy by just making the change be a new discovery in the modification process like the primaris stuff. Given how rare successful candidates are for these units even a small increase in successes would likely be worth sub standard results.

But they instead decided to retcon everything in the worst way possible because that's the GW way. They want you to think that there was always female custodes but how it reads right now is the imperium just slept on them for like 10k years for "reasons."


A better lore expert will probably come along but I'll take a shot. The process is kind of vague but it did mention specifically that they were "sons" of the emperor. Because there isn't a known mechanic like the gene seed it was an easier in for gw. If they aren't regarded they will make female custodes look basically identical to males.

So in short, it wasn't specifically stated how they were made so they could more easily retcon it. They didn't answer why nobody bothered to do it for thousands of years and lazily said that they were always there.

whats GW?

Games Workshop

[Stormer]

tonni님이 먼저 게시:

State Line Crosser님이 먼저 게시:

They easily could have dodged a lot of this controversy by just making the change be a new discovery in the modification process like the primaris stuff. Given how rare successful candidates are for these units even a small increase in successes would likely be worth sub standard results.

But they instead decided to retcon everything in the worst way possible because that's the GW way. They want you to think that there was always female custodes but how it reads right now is the imperium just slept on them for like 10k years for "reasons."


A better lore expert will probably come along but I'll take a shot. The process is kind of vague but it did mention specifically that they were "sons" of the emperor. Because there isn't a known mechanic like the gene seed it was an easier in for gw. If they aren't regarded they will make female custodes look basically identical to males.

So in short, it wasn't specifically stated how they were made so they could more easily retcon it. They didn't answer why nobody bothered to do it for thousands of years and lazily said that they were always there.

whats GW?

warhammer 40k company

[Birds]

timmy needs a wife in the clergy.

anyway it's based loosely on christianity and catholicism, and female true believers made up the common 'clergy' before nicea integrated and officiated the clergy according to political standards. since men were always busy with their trade after hours and women would inevitably run out of chores, especially if they organized and pooled labor. as such they were the ones tending to the sick, consoling the grieving, and making peace with god as needed.

at the time of integration the council decided that a male clergy needed to exist in order to do right by the patriarchial aristocracy of rome; otherwise it would continue to be a subversive religion. which is what they were trying to stop, without necessarily removing the religion itself. as they had with the greeks and others. at the same time they banned the female clergy, as they were responding by agitating for official status before the council could decide what was official.